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My SPN came with front cleats installed but nothing on the rear. I don't tie up to docks much or for very long. When I do, I have been using the rear handle to tie the rear. For Memorial weekend, we rented a house on the water with a boat slip. I was thinking about it and I'll probably leave the boat tied up longer than normal, possibly overnight. I really like not having cleats on the back, but should I get some for safety sake? I removed the ski pylon, so I can't tie up there. It does have the small rear swivel still on. Any thoughts or comments?
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
If you do install, use something with a small profile like this:
http://www.firstchoicemarine.com/p-5...lush-4-12.aspx
I just use the lifting rings on my 98 SN to tie up with. Not sure where those are on a SPN. -
RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
The lifting rings might work. They're slightly below the teak platform, but with the right angle they would work.Previous:
2011 Super Air Nautique 210
1994 Sport NautiqueComment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
One of the great things about nautiques is how the hardware is attached.
For that reason, I would not hesitate using any grab rail or handle to tie the boat to a dock.
If I was doing this every weekend, I would add a cleat to the rear for convienence, but for an occasional use, I would use a grab rail.Comment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
This is the one area I'm disappointed in CC. I just added rear cleats to my 211 SE. The rear ones come with the upgrade. These aren't that expensive for the price of the boat and is an obvious 'takeaway'. Yes, the grab rails are on good, but if a storm or something comes up, I want a cleat. Grabrails aren't really designed to be pulled to the side but to the rear. 99% of the time you'd be fine, but with time I can see them coming loose.Comment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
I am just about to put some of the pop up cleats on my boat. I would not hesitate to tie off to the grab rail as they are bolted through the hull. It would take quite a storm to pull loose.Comment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
I think I'll just use the grab rail (as I have been) or the lift rings. I prefer to leave the gunwale as is in the back. I'll probably pull the boat in at night, so it will only be tied off during the day.Previous:
2011 Super Air Nautique 210
1994 Sport NautiqueComment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
The lift rings are perfect - thats how we tie the NSS to our dock all year. Just don't let the line get in the water behind the boat, then back over it. Done that more than once hahaHow 'bout a little reverse action...Comment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
I bought the same attwood neat cleats to put on the rear of my 94 Sport. Just have not gotten to installing them yet. There was a good writeup on the Malibu board about doing this.Comment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
those neat cleats look very nice!Comment
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RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
While the lift ring is fine for tyeing off, rear cleats are a good place to hook fenders.06 Air 216 TEComment
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Re: RE: Rear Cleats (Should I install some?)
What type of loading do you think the cleats are put through. They are pulled to the side, and most all cleats I have seen have about the same size hardware as the grab rails have on them.Originally posted by SkiTower
In fact, the grab rails might actually see less stress on the fasteners since most of the pull will be from outside the boat forcing the grab rails into the hull rather than trying to pull them off of it. There will be some loads trying to twist the grab rails off the side, but they should be plenty strong to support the boat wihile banging about in a small storm or with wakes from other boats. If it gets that bad, you really should not have the boat in the water as you are taking a risk of it sinking regardless of where it is tie up.
I was lucky, and my boat came from the factory with the rear pop up cleats. but about the only thing I tie to them are the fenders. I usually tie the boat off using the rear pylon and the mid ship cleat or the rear pylon and the front lifting ring.Comment
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Like I said, 99% of the time you'd probably be fine, but if you see rough water, I can see the constant banging slowly working things loose over time (months / years instead of days). And tying to the pylon, in rough water, would create a different rock and allow unwanted motion against the dock.
I am splitting hairs here, and it will probably be fine. I agree, if the water is too rough you need to get the boat out of the water. I just don't feel I should spend that much money on a boat and need to improvise to tie it up properly.Comment
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Go with pop-ups and clip on fenders. Just make sure that who ever installs, uses a proper sized backing plate and doesn't just through-bolt.2003 SANTEComment
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Get them installed if you can get a good price
We got our 211 last year without them (i.e. not knowing on a brand new 2007 TE that you wouldn't get some form of rear cleats). We spent all season tied up to docks and while the mooring lines can be attached to the grabrails/lifting ring, there is no good way of attaching a rear fender/mooring buoy to the boat and it became a major PITA to jury-rig a line to attach the fender to (they need to be pop-up, as the ski line will snag on any non pop-up cleats).
So as a result, we got the dealer to install pop-up cleats at the tail end of last season. Now, they are not cheap and we initially got quoted over $600 to buy and install them. You need to "work" with your dealer to get the charge down to something more reasonable.
Also note that if you have a non brand new boat and are buying CC cleats, the motif on the cleats has changed from Nautique to Correct Craft, so you need to ensure you match the mid-ship cleats to the rear cleats properly.
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