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  • Andy
    • May 2008
    • 43

    • Union, MI

    • 2006 196 w/ZR6 & 89 BFN w/454

    Cold and Hot starts

    I've been a Correct Craft owner for many years and love my boat. I have an 89 Barefoot Nautique w/ the 454 and Holley carb. It's great to have people admire the boat when we first walk down to the pier, only to have them coughing after I hit the key. Does any one have a solution to the black smoke at start up when cold? Then, after it it's warm and you shut it off for a bit, it's really hard to start. Acts flooded, although it doesn't appear to drip after I shut it off. It doesn't do this if you start it right away like after picking up a skier. Has anyone leveled out the carb on the engine to try to solve this? The angle of this carb is pretty severe at rest, I imagine it's worse at speed. Any solutions out there? Thanks.
    Current---06 196 w/ZR6
    Current---89 BFN w/454 bought new & still have it.
    Previous---85 SN
  • BigBald
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2004
    • 529

    • Indianapolis (Carmel), IN


    #2
    RE: Cold and Hot starts

    I had a similar "Hot start" issue on my 88 Ski back several years ago. It did it for about a month. Wouldn't want to start for a while until it cooled a bit...then it would crank. We finally figured out that we had a bad tank of gas....once we ran that gas out and refilled a couple times, the issue went away.

    Not much help....sorry...
    88 Ski Nautique
    99 Sport Nautique
    Currently - 07 Nautique 216 Team

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    • Andy
      • May 2008
      • 43

      • Union, MI

      • 2006 196 w/ZR6 & 89 BFN w/454

      #3
      Thanks for the bad gas idea. I carry all my gas in, don't buy it on the lake, and run at least 89 octane all the time. I really think it's carb issue, but the local dealer and my auto mechanic can't come up a solution. I've been looking for a carb spacer (wedge plate) other than the one that came on the boat when I bought it new. I thought if I could level the carb more, it would run better and solve the problem. They don't seem to exist.
      Current---06 196 w/ZR6
      Current---89 BFN w/454 bought new & still have it.
      Previous---85 SN

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      • 81nautique
        • Feb 2006
        • 257

        • Big Rock, Illinois

        • 2012 200 Sport 1956 Correct Craft Collegian Past boats 1955 Correct Craft Hurricane 81 Anniversary Nautique 1960 GlassCraft Ski Nautique #1

        #4
        I think you're on the right track with float levels but don't feel you need to get a spacer. Even though you say you can not see it dripping I think there is fuel getting into your engine at rest which tells me float level is wrong or a dirty needle and seat. That's why you get a bunch of black smoke when you first start or after it sits for a while. When you restart right after picking up a skier it's fine because it hasn't leaked that much back down yet.

        Pull the bowls and check the float levels but I would think at the very least replace the needle and seat or if you have the means get the carb rebuilt.

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        • Andy
          • May 2008
          • 43

          • Union, MI

          • 2006 196 w/ZR6 & 89 BFN w/454

          #5
          It's now been suggested by a few friends that maybe the power valve is bad and leaking fuel ,or that maybe today's gasolines are quicker to boil so when the boat is hot, the fuel is boiling over. Anybody out there have any thoughts on these ideas?
          Current---06 196 w/ZR6
          Current---89 BFN w/454 bought new & still have it.
          Previous---85 SN

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          • 81nautique
            • Feb 2006
            • 257

            • Big Rock, Illinois

            • 2012 200 Sport 1956 Correct Craft Collegian Past boats 1955 Correct Craft Hurricane 81 Anniversary Nautique 1960 GlassCraft Ski Nautique #1

            #6
            Andy, i don't think the boiling fuel theory will hold up or we'd all have the same problem. have you pulled the bowls yet and checked the float levels and needle/seats? A bad power valve is a bad power valve, you said your issue clears after the boats warms up so how does a broken rubber diaphram fix itself? I would go back to basics and pull the bowls. I think your problem is simple and a rebuild kit and tuning will fix it.

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            • Nautiqueman
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Mar 2004
              • 487

              • Birmingham, AL

              • 1985 Southwind 20 1987 Ski Nautique - New 1989 Ski Nautique - New 1992 Ski Nautique 1997 Ski Nautique 1998 Ski Nautique - New 1989 Martinique 1999 Sport Nautique 1999 Air Nautique 1988 Ski Nautique 1998 Sport 2004 SV-211 - New 2005 SV-211 1993 Ski Nautique 2002 Ski Nautique - New yellow black 2002 Ski Nautique orange black 2002 Ski Nautique blue black 1999 Super Sport Masters blue 2006 220 TE - new Lime Green 1997 Ski Nautique red black 2000 Ski Nautique Masters - Navy

              #7
              REbuild the carb, then let us know if you have the same problem. I did this on an 89 Martinique with the 351 Ford and it was an economical solution to the problem of black smoke and coughing.

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