Why go 230 over X-15

**craigb** · 07-30-2008, 12:02 PM

There is no comparision when it comes to pure riding, if you want the best wake for wakeboarding when heavily loaded, the 230 is the boat for you. If you strickly recreational and don't care about huge clean wakes and getting the most out of your riding, then it comes down to which one you like better, room, looks, ect. Otherwise, the X-15 doesn't even come close to the 230 as far as a wake machine.

**tdc_worm** · 07-30-2008, 04:17 PM

i am biased here, so forgive me---

i have a few buddies whom are in the market for new boats. all have been on my 220 and now my 236. trying not to influence them w/ my biases, i convinced two of them to go to the MC dealership a give them a once over. One of them was coming from an 04 Malibu LSV and the other from a 4 Winns. The third guy in the market has an 01 X Star and hasnt been to check out any new boats.

the guy coming from the 03 Malibu remarked that he thought the CC 220's fit and finish was better than the any of the MCs. he is a big time surfer and loves how easy it is to build the 220 surf wake. he was sold on the rear facing seating and easy access garbage can of the 220. he now owns one.

the guy coming from the 4 Winns thought that was also sold on the rear facing seating and easy access garbage can of the 220. his remarks were that the MC had some nice detail with all of the CNCd aluminum, but the overall look of the MCs was too bling bling and that CC was way more classy and timeless. he now has a 220.

both of those two guys are not hardcore wakeboarders. both them thought the 220 interior was much more functional and felt bigger than the 230 interior even thought it was a smaller boat. i echo their thoughts on this.

the X Star owner is blown away by the 230 wake. it is shaped like his boats wake slammed, only wider, and that is without adding extra weight. the rear facing seating is essential for him, also, because he and his crew go out to ride and to watch the rider, not face the center of the boat and party. he is now in the market for a 230.

all three of them said that, given the same price range, you get more for your money w/ the CC boats (rear facing seating, resale value, warranty, etc...)

**Kevin_B** · 07-30-2008, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by tdc_worm

i am biased here, so forgive me---

i have a few buddies whom are in the market for new boats. all have been on my 220 and now my 236. trying not to influence them w/ my biases, i convinced two of them to go to the MC dealership a give them a once over. One of them was coming from an 04 Malibu LSV and the other from a 4 Winns. The third guy in the market has an 01 X Star and hasnt been to check out any new boats.

the guy coming from the 03 Malibu remarked that he thought the CC 220's fit and finish was better than the any of the MCs. he is a big time surfer and loves how easy it is to build the 220 surf wake. he was sold on the rear facing seating and easy access garbage can of the 220. he now owns one.

the guy coming from the 4 Winns thought that was also sold on the rear facing seating and easy access garbage can of the 220. his remarks were that the MC had some nice detail with all of the CNCd aluminum, but the overall look of the MCs was too bling bling and that CC was way more classy and timeless. he now has a 220.

both of those two guys are not hardcore wakeboarders. both them thought the 220 interior was much more functional and felt bigger than the 230 interior even thought it was a smaller boat. i echo their thoughts on this.

the X Star owner is blown away by the 230 wake. it is shaped like his boats wake slammed, only wider, and that is without adding extra weight. the rear facing seating is essential for him, also, because he and his crew go out to ride and to watch the rider, not face the center of the boat and party. he is now in the market for a 230.

all three of them said that, given the same price range, you get more for your money w/ the CC boats (rear facing seating, resale value, warranty, etc...)

CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!!!! Thanks guys I really appreciate your help and opinions, I plan to show him this forum so he knows its not only me spreading this overwhelming nautique bias and love.

**MHayes** · 07-30-2008, 05:56 PM

Re: Why go 230 over X-15

Originally posted by Kevin_B

What are some of the main reasons why you would tell someone to buy a 230 over an X-15. A buddy of mine is hot for an X-15 but also like the 230, right now he is leaning toward the X-15 because he thinks it handles better, I rode in one and thought we were going to run aground because of the chine-lock. All info would be good but its best if anyone has direct boat comparisons. I don't want to lose any more friends to the dark side.

To be honest, I'd tell your buddy to go drive, ride behind, etc. both boats and choose the one that he likes best. Most all you will get here will be biased opinions and rightfully so, we're all Nautique owners. So let him do his research and choose the one that suits him.....it might be a decision that comes back to haunt him or it may be the boat of his dreams.

**Erik** · 07-30-2008, 07:12 PM

Ok this is simple.

The X-15 is MasterCraft's best wake Athlete's boat right now, in my opinion. No no no not the X-Star, nor the horrid X2, or even the heralded and great X1. The X-15 is a big, solid boat and one that I really like. I've written about the X-15 in the past.

But here's the thing to tell your pal. The 230/236 is, in my opinion, the best wake Athlete's boat currently in production. From anyone. The second best is not the X-15, it is the 210, followed by the Malibu 247.

**Nautiqueman** · 07-30-2008, 08:04 PM

Tell him not to get his feelings hurt when he goes to sell the x-15 in a few years.

**tdc_worm** · 07-30-2008, 08:53 PM

Re: Why go 230 over X-15

Originally posted by MHayes

To be honest, I'd tell your buddy to go drive, ride behind, etc. both boats and choose the one that he likes best. Most all you will get here will be biased opinions and rightfully so, we're all Nautique owners. So let him do his research and choose the one that suits him.....it might be a decision that comes back to haunt him or it may be the boat of his dreams.

thats why i posted some others opinions and not mine...i own the 230, so i am biased...

**NautiDave07** · 07-30-2008, 08:59 PM

RE: Re: Why go 230 over X-15

I have a 236 that i want to make someone a good deal on can you guys help me get rid of it?

**N2Orbit** · 07-31-2008, 01:07 AM

I am a SuperAir 210 owner that spends alot of time behind an X-15. I hate to admit it, but with extra weight the X-15 throws a clean, solid wake. I still prefer my 210 fully weighted. I think the X-15 is the best boat in Mastercraft's line up. The downfall is that the boat does not say "Nautique" on the side.

**tdc_worm** · 07-31-2008, 08:48 AM

***disclaimer---i think all boats are good and it truely comes down to personal preference. i will post some experiences that are not opinion.

i know of 4 people whom own MCs that have had (nearly) catestrophic platform issues

1. 03 X Star owned by a personal friend---entire fiberglass platform came of while cruising down the lake. (story told to me by owner)
2. 04 MC X2 owned by a colleague---lag bolts holding his teak platform came out causing the platform to swivel 90* (i saw it first hand)
3. 06 X Star owned by a colleague/friend--entire fiberglass platform came off WHILE TOWING THE BOAT DOWN THE HIGHWAY to the dealership for service. (story told to me by owner)
4. 06 X Star owned by a friend---welds on platform brackets broke while people were standing on it, causing everyone to go in. (i saw it first hand)

last fact: an MC need extra valves and tons of extra hose to plumb in extra sacks. a CC does not---each sack can be plumbed in about 15 mins for the first timer, 5 mins if you know what your doing.

i am sure any boat can throw a wake that is good enough for 99% of us if weighted correctly...

**sludema** · 08-05-2008, 12:00 PM

I have also riden in both, skiied behind the X15. Both were very solid, classy but different as far as style goes. Question I have is why doesn't CC put in a ski pylon on their Vdrives that a person can ski from/attach a boom to to teach their kids how to ski/foot, as opposed to a pop up pylon on the back-end of the boat. Seems like the MC has stayed oriented more to true watersports where the CC is becoming more geared to the runabout crowd?

**Kevin_B** · 08-05-2008, 12:15 PM

Well a quick little update, my buddy bought an X-15 I don't think our friendship is going to survive. He claims he thought the x-15 was a nicer ride and much more comfortable for a day on the water. I think the fact that we live in Mastercraft country (TN) was the major factor. oh well, buyers remorse will set in about a day or two from now.

**innov8** · 08-05-2008, 03:11 PM

At least he was smart enough to go with the X-15, it is the best boat in the Mastercraft lineup, but it is far from a 230 Nautique in build quality, resale & wake, but to each his own.

**SuperSquirt** · 08-05-2008, 06:06 PM

Your friend may or may not know that he has a problem, it is your duty as a true friend to take him to get help. His sensory functions like his eyes and hands may already be poisoned by Mastercraft's toxic smog covering our beautiful East Tennessee area. Strap him up and get him to a doctor asap.

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