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  • rtrott
    • Sep 2008
    • 12



    Perfect Boat?

    Gentlemen and Ladies:

    Let me first say that I have been lurking a bit on this forum and genuinely appreciate what you folks are doing here. I have been a boat owner for over 20 years consisting solely of sterndrives. The occasional tow or ride in a nice inboard (this was before the wakeboard craze) has always made me jealous but I have always been relunctant to take the plunge due to two main factors - 1) Our lake is frequently rough and choppy due to wind and large cruisers and 2) We needed "family boat" characteristics as we like to sometimes put la number of folks onboard and we do a fare share of "cove sitting" tied with other friends boats hanging out/having lunch/swimming/etc. For years on our lake, the sight of a Mastercraft or Nautique (skiboats) was extremely rare and for good reason as it was just miserable going out in any sort of chop on those. Over the past several years I have noticed the number of wakeboard oriented boats has grown exponentially. I did some research and it seems that over the past 10 years there have been some hull design changes, boat length increases and interior reconfigurations which have tended to satisfy the potential owner with issues like mine. Up until about a week ago the wife and to a lesser extent myself, had settled on a 24ft Cobalt w the possibility of a wake tower. In the past few days, I have had an acquaintance extend me an offer that has caused me to think again - 2005 Air Nautique 226 TE, 330hp, 180hrs, PerfectPass - looks to be loaded but no docking lights. That of course scratched my inboard itch again and I spent some time online looking at opinions of this boat in terms of big choppy water/waves and "family boat" issues that concern us. Well, there is not a whole lot online that I could find but most things i read indicated that this boat handles rough chop/waves well and is suitable for the whole family thing/tying up with friends/spending the whole day on the water.

    I am 40 years old and used to slalom ski/kneeboard/skurf in teens and twenties but want to try the wakeboard/wakesurf now. Wife is athletic and also interested. 6 year old son is dying to try and 3 year old daughter likes to watch but would rather tube for now. I should insert that the wife has been way against the ski/wakeboard thing as other lake friends have said if you get tired of getting beat to death, get a 24ft or longer Cobalt. However, she is kind of interested in this 226 as I told her I read some things that sounded good about the boat's ride, etc. So, she is giving it a chance. Plus she agrees that this next boat needs to be well though out in terms of these kids coming into the age where they will want to do some of these modern watersports.

    My question is (finally!), what to any of you willing to help me think? I think the Cobalt is most definitely more suited to family activites, but is this 226 substantially similar? I love the fit and finish of the Cobalt and will be seeing the subject 226 later this week. Also, how does it ride in the chop from anyone with that experience? I must also admit I saw a picture of this boat and me being a bit conservative, I liked it. Not into all of the tribal stuff, tons of chrome, etc.

    I have been wanting to be on the inboard team for a long time (and dont want to make a hasty mistake), but given the foregoing, would this work for me?

    Sorry for the small novel, but I wanted to paint the most accurate portrait of my dilemma. I sincerely appreciate any response. I am hoping to make a decision this week.

    rtrott
  • rtrott
    • Sep 2008
    • 12



    #2
    RE: Perfect Boat?

    Also, when I go look at the 226, anything specific I should look for? If I can reach a deal with the guy, I think I may have the local Nautique dealer check it out. Any use for a water test?

    Thanks again very sincerely, rtrott

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    • bkhallpass
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 1407

      • Discovery Bay, CA

      • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

      #3
      RE: Perfect Boat?

      Cobalt is a very well built boat, as is Correct Craft.

      If family activities include anything where my kid will be dragged behind a boat whether it be tubing, knee boarding, skiing, wakeboarding, whatever, I don't see how anyone could think a stern drive is a good family boat. I'm kind of partial to my kid, and there is no way I'm putting her in the water with a stern drive prop hanging back there. Not to mention that the sterndrive will not perform as well for towed water sports.

      If family activities means driving around the lake, parking, having a picnic, and never getting out of boat while under power, then I agree, Cobalt is a great family boat.

      BKH
      2001 Super Air

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      • TRIP
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Nov 2007
        • 433

        • Costa Rica

        • 1997 Nautique Super Sport

        #4
        RE: Perfect Boat?

        Hi trott,
        drive that Nautique! That should answer most of your questions. And let us know what you think and decide ofcourse.

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        • SkiTower
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 2172

          • Clayton, NC


          #5
          If possible, I would not only drive it, but grab your ski, tube, wakeboard, etc. and get in the water. My 211 is a great family boat and both skis and wakeboards fine (not excellent, but fine: good enough for most people). The 226 is the bigger brother and has a little less ski, a little more wakeboard, and a little more 'family'.

          I can't imagine you regretting getting the 226, but to each his own.
          2007 SV211 SE
          Tow Vehicle 2019 Tundra
          Dealer: www.Whitelake.com

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          • OHLNautique
            • May 2008
            • 140

            • TN


            #6
            RE: Perfect Boat?

            We have had inboards in the family since I was a kid. Nautiques and a Ski Supreme. Last year my wife and I bought a Regal i/o. It was a very nice boat. Smooth ride, nice finish, fuel efficient. Great leisure boat. However, after driving inboards my whole life, I was not happy with the boat. At the beginning of this summer we sold it and bought another Nautique. I am super happy about being back in an inboard.
            The 226 will have a bit stiffer ride than the cobalt. I think all the other benifits of an inboard outweigh that single minor draw back. If your kids are going to get into any water sports, they will be much happier behind the Nautique. Definately go drive it, I bet you buy it.

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            • rtrott
              • Sep 2008
              • 12



              #7
              RE: Perfect Boat?

              Folks these are all great responses and thank you! I currently have a 1992 Sea Ray 200 which came free with our current lake house. It handles chop ok but gets tossed around like a toy with some of these cruiser wakes. I had myself, wife, two small kids and two other adult friends in it July 4th and we thought we were going to die with all the boat wake after fireworks were over. I was pretty embarassed that our friends had to endure that misery and vowed to find something better. Wife even said this boat needs to go after that. I know I am over thinking all of this but just am the type that likes to do my due diligence and research. I am looking for the best combo of watersports and leisure boat which is tough to find. Just hoping this 226 may be a strong contender. Thanks for all the responses and any more opinions or info is again greatly appreciated!

              rtrott

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              • MHayes
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Aug 2004
                • 830

                • Roswell, GA


                #8
                Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                Originally posted by rtrott
                It handles chop ok but gets tossed around like a toy with some of these cruiser wakes. I had myself, wife, two small kids and two other adult friends in it July 4th and we thought we were going to die with all the boat wake after fireworks were over. I was pretty embarassed that our friends had to endure that misery and vowed to find something better.
                It sounds like size maybe a bigger issue for you based on the above comment and the 226 is only a couple of feet longer than your Sea Ray. I hate to say it, but maybe you should be looking at an X-80, or something more in that size range.
                2001 Air Nautique

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                • rtrott
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 12



                  #9
                  RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                  Good point. What keeps confusing me is the sheer number of 20-24ft wakeboard boats that are on the lake now - and growing. I keep thinking surely there would not be such an increase in these unless they performed well on this lake. I think my problem is that I went on a ride in a friends Cobalt 262 the other day and it was like riding across the lake (incl medium chop and multiple large boat wakes) on a temperpedic mattress...I thought now THAT is a pleasurable ride...however he keeps talking about wanting a smaller inboard for ski/wake activity...

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                  • rtrott
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 12



                    #10
                    RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                    I will also add that I really disliked the whole "wakeboard tower" look until this very summer - I have had to force myself to accept it - just looks misplaced to me, like an add on that someone fashioned in their garage...I am sure I will get flamed for this but to be honest I think another thing that has made the wakeboard boat hard to accept for me is for years seeing them packed with shaggy-haired teens, heavy metal or gangster rap blaring from the speakers, tribal/inner city grafitti-like graphics, etc...sorry but have to be honest...it seems that things are changing though and the boat makers are focusing on more of the mainstream boating family with the design elements of these boats...

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                    • Mikeski
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2908

                      • San Francisco, CA

                      • Current 2005 SV 211, due for upgrade! GS22 or GS24 perhaps? Previous

                      #11
                      RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                      I am with you when it comes to the graphics. Just today on the water we saw two different almost all white boats, one was all white with a little yellow the other just had some black highlight strips on the side. Both boats had wakeboard towers and looked great.

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                      • Laptom
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 876

                        • Eindhoven, Netherlands


                        #12
                        RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                        My opinion. The Nautique is a really good build boot, as good or even better than Cobalt.

                        As for safety, the Nautique will be a much safer boat if your kids hang around a lot in and around the boat in the water (Tubing, swimming, ski, wakeboard, etc). No ourboard prop and a solid platform.

                        As for comfort, the bigger the better. And most likely the Cobalt will be a much smoother ride then the 226. Although the 226 is a great boat and handle chop well for a inboard V-drive, it will be no match with the Cobalt.

                        Have you looked to the 236? It is a little bigger boat (biggest in the Nautique line-up) and there are some nice 2007 deals on this boat.
                        230 with ZR6 running on propane

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                        • BPSKI
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 68

                          • Demotte Indiana


                          #13
                          RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                          We bought a 226 for the exact reasons that you are considering one. We were coming from a ski nautique and needed something way bigger. We absolutely refused to go to a I/O since we have never owned one and NEVER will. We needed a boat that was capable of doing everything, ski (not slalom), surf, wakeboard, tube as much as I hate to say it. We ride on everything from small private ski lakes to Lake Michigan, so we needed a boat that can handled well in tight situations and in the chop. After 2 summers of use we couldn't be happier with our choice. There are many that are quick to give the 226 a bad rap, but I have never heard anyone say anything bad about one after they have been in one. If you have been wanting an inboard for a long time I think you answered your own question about what boat to buy. If you get a cobalt chances are the inboard bug will keep biting. Test drive the 226 to be sure of the condition. If this is not the one there will be many others coming up.

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                          • ranger3
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 73



                            #14
                            RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                            I've never ridden in a Cobalt, but I have admired their look and sound many times on Cedar Creek Lake.

                            My wife and I recently traded an '04 211 for an '08 220. We are not hardcore ANYTHING, but spend nearly all of our weekends on the lake. We prefer wakeboarding and wakesurfing, but she has a large family and many weekends are spent with several couples and their children tubing. Yes, tubing behind a 220!!

                            We also hang out swimming and listening to the stereo, a lot. I love the 220 as a family boat and I'm sure the 226 would be just as good. I don't think you would regret buying a large Nautique 220, 226, 230, or 236. AS previously stated, if you test drive a Nautique, you will probably buy one!! GOOD LUCK!

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                            • rtrott
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 12



                              #15
                              RE: Re: RE: Perfect Boat?

                              Boy you guys are great. I am going to see the boat tomorrow. Any opinions if the Excalibur 330hp is too light or would it be ok for my needs?

                              BPSKI - thanks alot for your opinion - what bad rap do people give the 226?

                              Hey ranger3, saw you are at Cedar Creek - we are at Possum Kingdom. Does it get choppy/whitecap much at Cedar?

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