that was when i had a mastercraft aka disastercraft. i have a beautiful system in my boat right now. and i only let these guys do it b/c all they had to do was swap an existing amp already wired and same w/ speakers. the only reason i did not do it myself is b/c i have never mounted an amp and didnt want to do exactly what they did. thanks crowland, you made me feel a little better about the situation. at least gas is down to 2.50 for 87. but im makin them pay for my gas. of all the times i've been hosed by morons this time im not letting it slide. they messed up my baby