Slalom Wakes

[causewayskiier]

I know there may be a CC bias here, but thought I would ask anyway? If you ranked a CC 197 as a 10 (on -1-10 scale), how would you rank an early 90s model MC Prosport 205, a Bu Response LXi, a late model CC 206, and a MC 197?

[M3Fan]

RE: Slalom Wakes

I can give you my input on long lines (15 Off) and slower speeds (28-32MPH) for what it's worth on a couple of these boats.


My TSC 1 2000 SN has the best wake at these speeds of any boat I've skied behind. And the hull design is 11 model years old. How about that? Can't say anything for the TSC2 or TSC3 boats as I've never skied them but they are supposed to be even better.

I've gone to ski schools for 4 separate weeks (2003, 2006, 2007, 2008) that had MC 197's so I've had many, many sets behind them. They definitely have a harder and more defined wake than any other modern ski boat I've been behind.

The Bu RLXi has a nice soft wake, personally I feel the RLXi wake is 2nd only to the TSC1+ wake. It's great. I've had lots of experience behind RLXis at these speeds.

[MARK-S]

RE: Slalom Wakes

#1 196
#2 206
# 3 PS190
#4 Response Close bow
#5 RLXI
#6 197
IMO

[TravisFling]

RE: Slalom Wakes

196
RLX Closed bow
206
RLXI
197

[M3Fan]

RE: Slalom Wakes

I'm alarmed that anyone who's had experience behind an RLX/Response and an RLXi- as in, many pulls behind each, would put the RLXi below the RLX/Response. IMO the RLXi wake is much softer, at least at my slower speeds and longer lengths. I ski them back to back regularly.

[saceone]

RE: Slalom Wakes

ok some of you might laugh at me , but what makes a slalom wake ''good'' or bad ?

you guys ski at 30mph? ****, that's pretty fast eh!

I'm a total newbie when it comes to ski related stuff...

[SkiTower]

ok some of you might laugh at me , but what makes a slalom wake ''good'' or bad ?

you guys ski at 30mph? darn, that's pretty fast eh!

I'm a total newbie when it comes to ski related stuff...

small and soft is what you want. Slalolm pretty much starts at 30mph, most in the 32-34 range (combo skis probably shoot for 28)?

[saceone]

ok so a big wake isn't what you're looking for , right?
I once got up to 33-35 on a wakeboard. I was scared to death...first week owning the boat, my brother in law behind the wheel...you do the math

[SNMike]

ok so a big wake isn't what you're looking for , right?
I once got up to 33-35 on a wakeboard. I was scared to death...first week owning the boat, my brother in law behind the wheel...you do the math

Correctamundo!!! It's more like, "no wake" is what we want.

33-35 mph on a wakeboard?!?! :shock: Ouch!! I'm very happy you didn't face plant at that speed. Holy schmoly. You could've had a smile problem like this guy>>>> Yellow_Flash_Colorz: .

I ski at 34 to 35.5 mph at 15 and 22 off. So thank Heaven for the 196!! Yellow_Flash_Colorz:

[saceone]

what does ''15 off'' mean?

yeah 30+mph , in the sea-way for 10mins ( to get to our riding spot on the oh-so-cold Fleuve Saint-Laurent.

[SkiTower]

what does ''15 off'' mean?

to increase the difficulty, a ski rope is segmented so you can shorten it. "15 off" means you've taken a 75' rope and taken 15' off to ski at 60'. If you're running a course, it makes it more difficult to hit the buoys.

Also, some boats have sweet spots at certain lengths and are nasty at others.

If you think 30-35 is scary, I believe barefooters run in the 40 mph range. Yellow_Flash_Colorz:

[saceone]

thanks alot for the 411

40 mph would explain/justify the 454 engines..

[jjackkrash]

Re: Slalom Wakes

I know there may be a CC bias here, but thought I would ask anyway? If you ranked a CC 197 as a 10 (on -1-10 scale), how would you rank an early 90s model MC Prosport 205, a Bu Response LXi, a late model CC 206, and a MC 197?

It depends on speed, line length, and crew/gas weight. I haven't skiied behind the MC 205, but I personally don't mind the wake behind any of the other boats you mentioned at 34-36 mph and I don't really think the difference in the wakes affects my buoy count at those speeds, as long as the boats aren't loaded down with too much weight. At least one member of my club, however--a female who skis slower speeds--acts like my 206 is a tug boat. But I didn't buy the boat to please her. :grin: Also, I think you meant CC 196?

[MinnesotaNautique]

RE: Re: Slalom Wakes

I have a 206 and the wake is embarrassing compared to my friends 197! It's as if the wake doesn't exist behind his 197...perhaps it's the added weight from my tower and ballast tanks (mind you they are empty). I hate skiing behind my boat after a session on his 197

[causewayskiier]

Slalom Wakes

Thanks for the imput, I currently own a '92 MC 205 and am thinking of getting something newer. I really like bowriders such as the CC206, but I would like to get something newer and with a better slalom wake. Not that my wake is bad, I just wouldn't mind getting something better. It sounds like the 206 wakes aren't that great.