211 vs 216 DD

[CD]

Has anyone had a chance to ski behind both these boats?

[SkiTower]

RE: 211 vs 216 DD

check out this thread:

http://www.planetnautique.com/index....wtopic&t=12733

[SkiTower]

RE: 211 vs 216 DD

Sorry CD, didn't realize you started that one too.

Had an interesting discussion with the local dealer and he said there was a major difference between the ski wakes. I haven't had the opportunity yet.

[Mikeski]

RE: 211 vs 216 DD

I own a 211, two of my friends have 216DD's. In general the 216 wake is better for skiing, the 211 wake is better for boarding.

Behind my 211 I avoid 34/22off, there is a major bump at this line length, this is what I would ski if there was no bump.

Skiing at 34/28off, I find the 211 wake a little softer than the 216, not smaller just softer.

Comparing the two boats you need to look at the big picture. Driving, handling, acceleration are all superior with the 216. Convenience, storage space, social setting, are all superior with the 211. Wakeboarding and surfing are far superior behind the 211.

You also need to consider the size of your typical crew. If we have 4 or less we are more likely to take the 216, if we have more than 4 we are more likely to take my 211. With a crew of 6+, skiing behind the 211 starts to get ugly, same crew starts to get crowded inside the 216. In general it is easier to add weight than subtract it. With a crew of 4 you can run side sacks in the 216 and get a decent wakeboarding wake.

My wife preferred the open layout of the 211 so that is what we bought. Behind the boat she prefers the 216 but she doesn't spend that much time behind the boat.

While manufacturers love to use the term "crossover", there is really no such boat. The 211 is a wakeboarding boat, the 216 is a ski boat. You can force them to immitate the opposite but not that well.

Another buddy has a Malibu VTX, seems to do everything a little better than my 211 or my buddies 216's... but, it's a Malibu so there is some sacrafice in quality.

Do you have a buddy have a ski boat or a wakeboard boat? Get the opposite of what your buddy has and start trading rides.

[Rhino]

RE: 211 vs 216 DD

Mikeski,
As I have read this forum over the past couple of years, I've been very impressed at the quality of your posts. You seem to have a great deal of technical knowledge about the attributes, operation and maintenance of CC (and other) boats, aftermarket systems, etc., and your observations seem to be accurate and unbiased. I know I have benefitted from the sharing of your wisdom. This is just a quick word of thanks.

[SkiTundra]

RE: 211 vs 216 DD

I'm going to partially disagree with Mike. If by crossover he means great ski and great wakeboard, he is correct that no such thing exists. If however, crossover means better ski wake than a wakeboat and better wakeboard than a ski boat then the 211 fits the bill. It compromises a bit of each (probably compromises ski more than wakeboard but some wakeboarders might disagree) but is also somewhat decent at each. Otherwise I think he nailed it. For us WAF was a high priority.

[MichaelD]

RE: 211 vs 216 DD

CD...in the other thread you started (206 vs 216) on Oct 20th I chimed in about the '07 SV-211 (V-Drive) & 216 (DD). I own a 216, and my lake neighbor has a SV-211, and I've skied behind both. Other lake neighbors have an '08 210. We all hang out on each others boats. If I'm not up for much cutting (which is rare), I'll ski the SV211, but if I'm wanting to cut side to side, I'll drop the 216 in the water in a heart beat. I've gone airborne behind the 211 on a slalom ski & the landing isn't fun.
If you're seriously considering a ski boat, go with the 216. The fact that you were earlier considering a 206 vs 216, I'd be hesitant to see you in a 211 unless the wake boarding & seating/social arrangement are taking a higher priority than the ski wake. Granted, 80%+ of CC's sales are V-Drive boats and wake boarding is more popular than skiing these days, but if you want to do some serious skiing, get a DD.
Before dropping $50-70k on a boat (50 is likely a bit low unless CC is doing some serious sales, which they might given the current economic climate), I highly suggest skiing or boarding behind one of them. If your local dealer doesn't have a 211 & 216 in stock & can't locate a customer willing to let you take a test ski/ride (might be hard depending on when winterization season starts in your area), see if they can arrange a factory demo in Orlando FL for you. If you're seriously contemplating dropping the kinda money required to buy a Nautique, a $100 plane ticket to make sure you get what best fits your needs is a drop in the bucket & well worth it IMO. Everyone on this board can chime in with their $.02, but there is nothing like an on-water demo to make the decision.

[Mikeski]

side note on the test drive/ski...

When I took the test ski behind my 211 the wake seemed very flat, about the same as my 1995 ski nautique. During my test ski there was the 200lb driver and my 100lb wife, about 50lbs of gear, nothing in the cooler and about 1/4 tank of gas.

Fast forward 3 years. Now my typical outing includes 4 or 5 boat crew, probably 300lbs of stereo gear, another 120lbs of batteries, a full cooler, full gas tank, 160lbs of weight bags, plus...

Skiing behind my floating SUV is just like driving my Tahoe down a curvy road. It can be done but it's not ideal. Keep in mind skiing behind a 216 or even a Ski Nautique with that load is also not ideal.

[SkiTower]

MikeD, I couldn't have explained it better. I got the 211 as a family boat I can ski behind. For anyone more concerned about the ski wake than interior comfort, the closer to a 196 the better. I haven't skied a 216, but my ski buddy moved from a 216 to a 196 to get the better wake (and he has 3 kids and a wife).

[SkiTundra]

Fast forward 3 years. Now my typical outing includes 4 or 5 boat crew, probably 300lbs of stereo gear, another 120lbs of batteries, a full cooler, full gas tank, 160lbs of weight bags, plus...

Excellent point. My son may come looking for you when he can't find the stereo system and a few other things in our 211 come spring. Yellow_Flash_Colorz:

[SkiTundra]

I'm already dreaming up graphics for Super Austaire Nautique :-)

[CD]

216 it is boys...its a done deal!

[snowboardcorey]

Congrats on the new boat!

[MichaelD]

Congrats on the boat!

[BigBald]

I think you're gonna love it...