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  • JohnE
    • Sep 2007
    • 61



    Re: Article in Boating Industry Today

    Originally posted by etwman
    Mastercraft slices another 110 employees referencing it as an atomic bomb that has hit the marine industry.

    http://www.boating-industry.com/output.cfm?id=2052757
    That report is what is spurring much of this discussion.

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    • SkiTundra
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jul 2008
      • 513

      • Unknown


      Originally posted by JohnE
      So if and when a buyer wants to visit a dealer to test and see a certain boat there may not be any. You don't think that might be a problem?

      And my understanding is the 'bu has always built boats as they were ordered. So they didn't oversupply anything. Don't you think the lack of financing is adversely affecting their dealers?
      I think that will be minimal at best. Many dealers already have boats on the floor from last year and the year before and most can afford to finance themselves for a minimum 'show' of 2 or 3 bestsellers. Many dealers also establish relationships with former customers for test drives (which is what my dealer does).

      The core of the problem is that the buyers are simply not there, not that plan co's won't loan money.

      I know that our Bu dealer had about 20 boats in stock last July, so at least some Bu's are made to order.

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      • CradGen2
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Aug 2020
        • 1343

        • Horseheads NY

        • 1999 Ski 2000 Sport 2004 SV21 2007 216 1992 Malibu flightcraft 2008 210 2006 ski 2012 - 210 2016 BU 23lsv 1998 Sport 1997 Super Sport

        WOW it made it to the public

        Found this on the web
        Attached Files

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        • SNMike
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • May 2005
          • 1001

          • Florida


          Re: WOW it made it to the public

          Originally posted by cradsv21104
          Found this on the web
          Did it hit the bridge at high speed? :rolleyes:
          2007 Ski Nautique 196 Limited/ PP/ Mods
          Ludwig Classic Mapple Double Bass/ Zildjian Overhead

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          • swc5150
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2008
            • 2240

            • Eau Claire, WI

            • MasterCraft Prostar

            RE: Re: WOW it made it to the public

            That's over $300k of boat sitting there! It's just beyond me why they're venturing into that market.
            '08 196LE (previous)
            '07 196LE (previous)
            2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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            • obie
              • Aug 2009
              • 9



              Tough to get floor financing for dealers. That is not good for the boat industry. Who's to say that if and when MC, BU, and CC sell off their non-current inventory the credit markets free up? I can't see it, at least not in the next couple of years.

              Seems like the banks are punishing the regular folks and small businesses because the government is punishing them. It's one big mess. Everyone is to blame.

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              • AirTool
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 4049

                • Katy, Texas


                Originally posted by obie
                Everyone is to blame.
                Don't blame me. I'm clean of guilt and have involuntarily donated THOUSANDS of dollars to the cause.

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                • JohnE
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 61



                  Re: RE: Re: WOW it made it to the public

                  Originally posted by swc5150
                  That's over $300k of boat sitting there! It's just beyond me why they're venturing into that market.
                  Because it seemed like a good idea at the time. :mrgreen:

                  Seriously by the time the economy tanked they were in too deep to pull out.

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                  • 2gofaster
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • May 2008
                    • 671

                    • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


                    RE: Re: RE: Re: WOW it made it to the public

                    A MC300 with all the options would retail at $490,000. STUPID money for a 33 foot boat. The cool thing is you can get it with twin 350hp inline 6 diesels in the V drive config with a bow thruster like a big boat.
                    Shane Hill
                    2014 Team 200OB
                    67 '13 Prophecy

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                    • CradGen2
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 1343

                      • Horseheads NY

                      • 1999 Ski 2000 Sport 2004 SV21 2007 216 1992 Malibu flightcraft 2008 210 2006 ski 2012 - 210 2016 BU 23lsv 1998 Sport 1997 Super Sport

                      RE: Re: RE: Re: WOW it made it to the public

                      I say group buy..... HAHAHAHAHA I'm guessing it has a heck of a surf wake....

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                      • WakeSlayer
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 2069

                        • Silver Creek, MN

                        • 1968 Mustang

                        Originally posted by AirTool
                        Originally posted by obie
                        Everyone is to blame.
                        Don't blame me. I'm clean of guilt and have involuntarily donated THOUSANDS of dollars to the cause.
                        Ain't that the truth....
                        the WakeSlayer
                        1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                        1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                        • j2nh
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 628

                          • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                          In 2007 MC teamed up with the Penske Group and set a goal of DOUBLING revenues in 5 years. Expansion into foreign markets and developing more product in the 20 to 30 foot luxury line was the goal.
                          MasterCraft Boat Co. President and CEO John Dorton said in an interview "MasterCraft is moving toward 20- to 30-foot-long boats that will be what Lexis is to automobiles" (knoxnews.com).

                          And then the bottom fell out. It will be a long time before 30 foot luxury yachts and McMansions come back in vogue if they ever do.

                          Do what you do best and do it better than anyone else.
                          2018 200 Team H6
                          2009 196 Team ZR 409
                          2005 196 Limited ZR 375
                          2003 196 Limited Excalibur
                          1999 196 Masters Edition
                          1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
                          1987 ProStar 190

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                          • AirTool
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4049

                            • Katy, Texas


                            Originally posted by j2nh
                            Do what you do best and do it better than anyone else.
                            I think I've heard that before.

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                            • swc5150
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 2240

                              • Eau Claire, WI

                              • MasterCraft Prostar

                              I'll probably get some disagreements here, but I think the SN200 is a compromise. The 196 was/is the best ski ever boat ever produced. I understand the dollars and sense of making an open bow version identical to its CB counterpart, but what you get is a Prostar 197.
                              '08 196LE (previous)
                              '07 196LE (previous)
                              2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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                              • Nautiquehunter
                                1,000 Post Club Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 2080

                                • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

                                • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

                                I think the 200 is the best parts of the 196 and 206 combined and then improved from there. I cant wait to drive one next season.

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