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  • kevfran99
    • Sep 2008
    • 335

    • ATL

    • 08 210 SAN Team

    How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

    Wondering how much weight you guys add to wakesurf.

    I have 260 lb bag on top of my factory port side

    260 lb bag on the center of the floor.....underneath the removable rear center seat

    500 lb bag on the port side seat

    belly tank full

    starboard tank 1/2 full

    Usually ride with only the driver and myself surfing

    I'm wanting a bigger result.....what are you guys using????

    Here's some pics of what it looks like
    oh, yes the rope is still in my hand(water is f'ing cold and noone to throw me a rope while I'm trying out my new board)

    maybe my arse is just too big! :mrgreen:


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  • gride300
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1356

    • mobile, al


    #2
    RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

    i'd weight the port side more. im no surf expert, but fill all the port ballast, the 260lb bag, and maybe some of the belly. if you can put the 500lb in the rear port compartment you'll get a much better result i bet.

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    • MikeC
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2007
      • 535

      • Georgia

      • 1999 Ski Nautique (Python powered) 2017 GS22 (sold) 2005 SV211 (sold)

      #3
      RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

      Try spreading the weight out a little bit, maybe put the 260 lb bag up in the bow. If I get too much weight in the stern I get a really short, steep wake, by distributing the weight along the port (or starboard) side I get a much longer wave.
      The warm weather will be here soon and you'll be able to get more people onboard, and I affectionately refer to the people on my boat as porta-balast, easy to move and you can fine tune the wave while you're riding.

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      • kevfran99
        • Sep 2008
        • 335

        • ATL

        • 08 210 SAN Team

        #4
        Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

        Originally posted by gride300
        i'd weight the port side more. im no surf expert, but fill all the port ballast, the 260lb bag, and maybe some of the belly. if you can put the 500lb in the rear port compartment you'll get a much better result i bet.
        I have done what you just suggested as listed above.......the 500lb bag will not fit in the rear compartment.....it's too long
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        • kevfran99
          • Sep 2008
          • 335

          • ATL

          • 08 210 SAN Team

          #5
          Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

          Originally posted by MikeC
          Try spreading the weight out a little bit, maybe put the 260 lb bag up in the bow. If I get too much weight in the stern I get a really short, steep wake, by distributing the weight along the port (or starboard) side I get a much longer wave.
          The warm weather will be here soon and you'll be able to get more people onboard, and I affectionately refer to the people on my boat as porta-balast, easy to move and you can fine tune the wave while you're riding.

          yes...but the problem with me and ports-balast is that i'm off on Fridays when everyone else is working, this is great for wakeboarding, but not for the weight needed for surfing. I will try adding weight to the bow....maybe the center 260lb bag
          '08 SAN 210 Team Black w/Patriot red top stripe-Tow Biminis over the tower-4 under water transom lights-hot/cold shower-crest carpet-full throttle steering wheel-extra 6 channel JL amp-Pro 80's-WS420-fiberglass sub enclosure-led'd vents-Chromax Letters-and Tinted windshield for now......

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          • Fwat220
            • Sep 2008
            • 97

            • Scottsdale, AZ


            #6
            RE: Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

            I have a 2007 SANTE and we fill the port side of the factory ballast only. We then have atleast two people sitting on the rear of the boat (port side) with thier feet on the swim deck. The best wake I have ever ridden was with the two people on the back corner and four others all sitting on the port side. The boat is terribly difficult to maneuver when approaching a down surfer, but the wake is nice. We go 11.5 mph.

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            • Fwat220
              • Sep 2008
              • 97

              • Scottsdale, AZ


              #7
              RE: Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing??

              I also suggest getting yourself a surf rope. Missing fingers and limbs are the result of using a ski rope. I saw a thread on here with some terrible photos and stories.

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              • kevfran99
                • Sep 2008
                • 335

                • ATL

                • 08 210 SAN Team

                #8
                Re: RE: Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurfing?

                Originally posted by Fwat220
                I also suggest getting yourself a surf rope. Missing fingers and limbs are the result of using a ski rope. I saw a thread on here with some terrible photos and stories.
                normally I just use it to get up. if I fall I always throw it away from me if I'm surfing.
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                • jaybird
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 516

                  • North Alabama Lake Weiss


                  #9
                  RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurf

                  Your wake looks washy, add more weight to the front, you can’t get too much weight unless it gets unsafe and would easily swamp but placement is critical. Add more friends to the mix; they are easy to move around and find the right combination.

                  And defiantly get a surf rope with no handle!

                  Probably not an issue but sometimes overlooked, try to stay in water 10 ft plus deep, shallow water causes a flatten smaller wake.
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                  • DWhitt
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 140

                    • Gainesville, GA

                    • 2006 SAN 220 TE Previous Boat: 2002 SAN 210 TE

                    #10
                    RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wakesurf

                    I'm off on fridays too, we'll have to go ride some. I have the same problem with finding people to ride on Fridays. I spent a good bit of time tuning my surf wake on my "original 210". I might be able to help out. I know it's a different hull but I fill my port tank, the sac on top of my port tank, my ski locker, bow and depending on if I had people in the boat, I would add another 400-500 pounds along the port side seating. It's a pretty mean wake.

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                    • Nautiquetrevo
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 17

                      • Florida

                      • 2007 Super Air 210

                      #11
                      Your wake looks pretty good, but the most important part about surfing is deep water. The deeper the water the better. I normally wakesurf in 10 to 28 ft. of water and it makes a big difference. Anything deeper than 8 ft. will give you a better wake. So just try to find the deepest part of the lake and have fun.

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                      • kevfran99
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 335

                        • ATL

                        • 08 210 SAN Team

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: How you do weight your boat for wake

                        Originally posted by DWhitt
                        I'm off on fridays too, we'll have to go ride some. I have the same problem with finding people to ride on Fridays. I spent a good bit of time tuning my surf wake on my "original 210". I might be able to help out. I know it's a different hull but I fill my port tank, the sac on top of my port tank, my ski locker, bow and depending on if I had people in the boat, I would add another 400-500 pounds along the port side seating. It's a pretty mean wake.

                        Just let me know.....I'm in! pm'd you with my contact info

                        I also was in 12-18feet of water for that pic. I keep it in deeper water.
                        '08 SAN 210 Team Black w/Patriot red top stripe-Tow Biminis over the tower-4 under water transom lights-hot/cold shower-crest carpet-full throttle steering wheel-extra 6 channel JL amp-Pro 80's-WS420-fiberglass sub enclosure-led'd vents-Chromax Letters-and Tinted windshield for now......

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                        • WakeSlayer
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 2069

                          • Silver Creek, MN

                          • 1968 Mustang

                          #13
                          I pretty much with what DWhitt says. While you hull is different than ours, here is my set up

                          this is for either side

                          rider side:
                          500-600 in rear locker
                          400 bag on seat
                          400lbs lead under seat
                          as many people as we have in the boat evenly placed, back to front


                          125-150 on opposite side, as far forward in the passenger are as possible.

                          neutral / alway in same spot

                          400 in belly locker
                          160# in walk through
                          150 in far point of bow
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