Good wake w/o upsetting the neighbors ?

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  • thedude
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Apr 2007
    • 451

    • SW PA


    #31
    I don't think there is a practical way to "dissapate" wakes before they hit something (the shoreline). A wake is nothing more than a wave of energy traveling through a medium (water), much like a sound wave travels through air. Unless there is something to absorb that energy, the wave will continue until on forever (theoretically), like the ocean wave example someone mentioned earlier. On lakes these things that absorb the wave energy are shorelines, grasses on the shoreline, your sandy beach, submerged trees, etc etc.

    Generally, I know the skill level of each one of the people that rides on my boat, if they don't benefit from ballast, or can barely get wake to wake, we just don't use ballast, there is no point. I'm certainly not an expert rider, but I enjoy hitting a loaded wake at 85ft and sailing a huge grab, 180, backroll or other common trick. I think a huge stalled out simple trick with style looks better than a very technical trick that is rushed, thats just my opinion...maybe that's just because I can't do the really tech tricks!

    Matt

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    • gride300
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1356

      • mobile, al


      #32
      fisherman as a whole are much more jerkish and rude compared to about 95% of rider's/skier's i know. we try to be friendly but they just HATE seeing the tower come around the corner. how about speed limits for bass boats while someone's at it

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      • DanielC
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 2669

        • West Linn OR

        • 1997 Ski Nautique

        #33
        My opinion, a bass boat going 85 miles an hour is so far out of the water, it leaves no wake.
        On the Willamette, I mentioned before, it is divided by some waterfalls in Oregon City. The fishing is better below the falls, the fisherman tend to stay down there. the part of the Willamette above the falls is better for towed water sports. The river is narrower, and has some turns that you can go to that put the wind blowing across the water, and that keep the water smoother. This is the part of the river that the wake enhancing device ban is going into effect.
        On the lower Willamette, the part that goes through downtown Portland, there is a narrow channel behind an island, that is protected from the main river. It is a good place for finding some smooth water, by downtown Portland. This is the area they are proposing a ban on wakeboarding, and I believe skiing.

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        • BP22
          • Jan 2007
          • 248

          • Covina, CA

          • 2006 Super Air Nautique 210

          #34
          Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Good wake w/o upsetting the neighbors ?

          Originally posted by saceone
          flame suit on*
          I ride my 02 210TE with the tanks EMPTY
          flame suit off*
          Depending on how many people in my boat, so do I. I usually ride with just the driver so I have the tanks full plus 400lbs of Pop Bags. I am a mediocre rider and this is more wake than I probably need. Throw 5-6 guys on my boat and I empty the rear tanks.

          :mrgreen:
          Brandon
          2006 SAN 210

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          • skiswm
            • Mar 2005
            • 165

            • SF Bay Area/Truckee CA


            #35
            I can see both sides of this, having been on my lake may times and seeing someone put the boat in and fill up the tanks first before they even check out the surroundings and who/what else is on the water. I tend to feel a lot of people that fill up their tanks don't really need to do it, they just do it because either the tanks are "there" or they think it looks "cool." I ski and board so I know what a wakeboard wake can do to a nice day on the lake. I hate it when people make a big wake early in the morning so they can surf yet they don't even bother to look and see all the people skiing and fishing on the lake at the same time. They have now ruined the lake for everyone else. Plus, some of those large wakes can really play havoc with boats that are docked or tied up on shore. I would also agree that some of the worst offenders would actually be those that are pulling tubes, they have litle regard to who or what is around them and are just thinking about spinning the person on the tube.

            I will say if you don't like the rules don't just "break them" becuase you will only upset people more. Instead go to your City meetings or whoever is in control of your local lake. Have your facts in order and talk to various organizations. About 10 years ago the Town of Truckee was looking to pretty much ban all boating over 10mph on Donner Lake, as a group we fought this, HOA's, IJSBA, various boat rental companies, and avg citizens. With the help of all involved it wasn't passed. We also agreed to somewhat "police" ourslves and and let people know if they were doing something wrong.

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            • SuperSquirt
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Apr 2008
              • 534

              • Tennessee

              • 2008 SANTE 210

              #36
              Thank god i am always on TVA lakes, i think the last thing on their agenda is wildlife conservation. Its all about money down here in TN, energy and real estate taxes.

              I wonder if coal ash helps firm up the lip of the wake??

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              • saceone
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • May 2008
                • 650

                • Montréal


                #37
                Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Good wake w/o upsetting the neighbors ?

                Originally posted by BP22
                Originally posted by saceone
                flame suit on*
                I ride my 02 210TE with the tanks EMPTY
                flame suit off*
                Depending on how many people in my boat, so do I. I usually ride with just the driver so I have the tanks full plus 400lbs of Pop Bags. I am a mediocre rider and this is more wake than I probably need. Throw 5-6 guys on my boat and I empty the rear tanks.

                :mrgreen:
                even with a small crew (3 guys total, 2 on the boat) I ride with no ballast. I love the stock wake on my 210.

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                • INVNO1
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 103

                  • Southern Maine


                  #38
                  Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Good wake w/o upsetting the neighbors ?

                  Originally posted by BP22
                  Originally posted by saceone
                  flame suit on*
                  I ride my 02 210TE with the tanks EMPTY
                  flame suit off*
                  Depending on how many people in my boat, so do I. I usually ride with just the driver so I have the tanks full plus 400lbs of Pop Bags. I am a mediocre rider and this is more wake than I probably need. Throw 5-6 guys on my boat and I empty the rear tanks.

                  :mrgreen:
                  05 SANTE . Three adults in the boat and one 10 year old. Tanks Empty. 20.8 mph 65 feet out.

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