PP Stargazer vs. Zero Off Cruise Control

[causewayskiier]

I'm sure this has been discussed before but here it is again. Which cruise control is better for slalom skiing Perfect Pass Star Gazer or Zero Off. The price difference has me leaning toward PP is there a reason for the cost difference? I have an '07 CC 206.

[MARK-S]

RE: PP Stargazer vs. Zero Off Cruise Control

ZO is the way to go if you are a tourney skier. If not, stick with PP classic unless you have the cash to blow.

[Lvnspeed]

Is perfect pass just plug and play? I have a firend with a 2007 206 he wants to install PP but not sure what is needed to install it

[causewayskiier]

PP Stargazer vs. Zero Off Cruise Control

Mark S. - Thanks for the reply. I don't tourney ski but have ski buddies that do. What are the advantages of ZO? Also are you saying that you suggest PP Digital Pro over PP Stargazer?

[MARK-S]

RE: PP Stargazer vs. Zero Off Cruise Control

causeway,
ZO is what you will get for speed control at tourneys as we move forward. 09 will see mostly ZO with a few SG from some of the 2008 Promo malibus and MC that have SG in them. For 09, the big 3 all have ZO in their boats.
So if you are practicing for a tourney, the best bet is ZO. If not, pp classic is fine. Also, ZO upgrades are easy to deal with when new programs come out. I dont know the cost of PP vs SG but to me, SG makes no sense if ZO is there. ZO is also very easy to use and deal with.

[causewayskiier]

The price difference is about $400- ( $1200 vs $1600). Anyone out there know which is easiest to install? Also I still don't know what the advantages are of ZO, other than that is what will be used in most tournaments.

[2gofaster]

SG is kind of a pain to install on an 06 and up boat if it's a limited.

[MARK-S]

Advantages to ZO.
1. Easy for wife to drive
2. pull is what you get at tourneys
3. No magnets needed in course
4. No dealing with segment times being off and you dont need crew weights.
5. Easy upgrades.

[2gofaster]

Yep, no contest.........I'd buy ZO for your boat. Especially if you ever want to sell it, the ZO equipped boat will sell easier.

[MNSuperAir]

Is the '07 206 drive by wire? If not PP is your only option. I just upgraded to Stargazer and it was easy since I already had digital pro before. 15 minutes max because no paddle wheel needed except for water temp.

[2gofaster]

No, it's drive by wire.

[qstufflebeam]

I have skied behind both. For me ZO all the way. Easy to install and operate. upgrading is easier-must have access to a patch cord that connects with the ECM unit and a laptop computer. One question I have is whether or not you will be skiing in a slalom course or not? It sounds like you will be and in that case I wouldn't hesitate in investing in ZO. The comment made about resale is dead on. I think anyone(course skier) looking at a DBW boat will expect it to have ZO.

[nms1991]

If you install ZO in a 07 you have to update the program in the engines computer to run the ZO. Installing a star gazer in an older boat is easier than one with a paddle wheel. And ZO is easier to upgrade than PP.

[maxpower220]

Re: PP Stargazer vs. Zero Off Cruise Control

Mark S. - Thanks for the reply. I don't tourney ski but have ski buddies that do. What are the advantages of ZO? Also are you saying that you suggest PP Digital Pro over PP Stargazer?

Both systems should be plug and play for DBW boats. Both installs will take about the same time. PP will still require a baseline setup on your boats RPM for all modes to work.
ZO is the same system that is used in most tournys. The advantage of having it in your boat is that you can train with the same pull, so you can get used to it. There is a difference in pulls between PPSG and ZO.
ZO is totally GPS based, no need for timers, magnets, magnet pickups, etc. PPSG will still need a magnet.

If you have never had either system, there will be a learning process to both. If you have had PP in the past, it may be easier for you to use. Ask your ski buddies what system they would get in their boat.

If you take your boat to many different course and have tourney skiers in your boat, ZO would seem to make more sense. Make your buddies pitch in to cover some of the cost difference.

[2gofaster]

RE: Re: PP Stargazer vs. Zero Off Cruise Control

Actually, SG is not exactly plug and play in a DBW limited boat. You have to splice into wires going to the gateway. it's kind of a pain.