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  • Burk
    • Jul 2009
    • 19



    1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

    Okay so I just tried surfing behind my 1999 SAN for the first time over the weekend. Here are the specs.

    I've got 650 lbs on both sides of my engine compartment lockers totalling 1300lbs in the back. I don't have any center/bow ballasts. I only had my dad driving, 180lbs. It's a Right Hand prop, So when standing on the board I was on the left side of the boat. The WAKE did not seem to have the energy to surf ropeless. I could feel at times the wake push me, but couldn't sustain me for more than a couple seconds. I only weigh 130 lbs, and thought even with a smaller wake it should be able to push me, but no luck.

    Has anyone else had success Surfing behind a 1999 SAN?
    If so, where was your weight distributed?
    How much does BOW weight effect the wake?

    Any advise would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Burk
  • green210
    • Aug 2009
    • 38


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    #2
    RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

    Try putting one 650 in the locker on the side you are surfing and put the other one in the bow on the side you are surfing our put it in front of the other 650 bag on the seat or on the floor

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    • steve-o
      • Jul 2009
      • 231



      #3
      RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

      How fast was he driving? Try different speeds.

      Are your batteries still on the starboard side? You might want to try that side b/c of the driver and battery added weight. Also like green210 said put all your weight on the center or the sirf side.

      Do you still have the stock tanks?

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      • WakeSlayer
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 2069

        • Silver Creek, MN

        • 1968 Mustang

        #4
        RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

        I have the same boat, different engine. You are at a disadvantage on the port side because of the RH engine. However, in saying that, my port side wake is actually better than my starboard. Which as a goofy rider, sucks for me, but my wife and friends are super happy. ha ha.



        Below is copied from another post that I contributed to.

        this is for either side:

        750 in the rear (surfer side) nearly full (650-700)
        400 in belly tank
        400 on seat on riders side
        150 lead in the bow
        180 lead in walkthrough
        200 lead under rear and side seats in no particular placement

        200+ lead either behind drivers seat for starboard, or under gullwing seat for port, as far to the side as possible.


        Oddly, my boat has a better wake portside regardless of prop rotation. My wife loves this. My starboard is great, but my port is ridiculous.

        However, my friend's twin-to-mine SAN, has a better starboard wake, and a horrible port wake. We are within 50lbs of each ballastwise. His PP runs at 9.8 I use either 10.0 or 10.3 depending on the board I am riding. I am sure we are at the same speed, it just reads different.


        we alter it a little depending on people, but this has been my consistent setup for the last couple months. You should have no problem riding the port side either. I have tried running a bag up in the bow but every time I do it we hate it, and end up spending more time fiddling with it that it could possibly be worth. Do bear in mind that my motor weighs 200-250 more than most, also, so that has some effect.
        the WakeSlayer
        1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
        1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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        • Burk
          • Jul 2009
          • 19



          #5
          RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

          So the original Ballast Tanks are re-installed. Each Giving 250lbs on both sides. And I've got 2, 400lb sacs on top of the original tanks. The engine weighs 650 according to an online manual I read for the 1999 Ford Pleasure Craft Marine engine - is that accurate?

          How do you have room for 750 in the rear Surfer side? - The 650lbs I have now seem to take up most my locker space when full.
          I also had a Full tank of gas on Saturday when this "test run" was given.
          We went anywhere from 8.5 to 10.5. The best "feel" I got on the port side was at 9.3 mph.
          I ought to try the starboard side, although it will be awkward, I've surfed many Right hand breaks in the ocean so I might be able to manage.
          I have one battery on each side, my Battery converter switch is on the Starboard side.

          If I only fill the Port side and leave the Starboard side empty would that help?

          Thanks for the tips so far, I'm taking good notes!

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          • WakeSlayer
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 2069

            • Silver Creek, MN

            • 1968 Mustang

            #6
            RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

            I cut my hard tanks out, so there is just a single 750 in each side. YES, on the single sided ballast fill. You are counteracting the port side if you fill the starboard too. Get a tube sac for the center locker. If your additional 400# sacs are loose, use the starboard one on the seat on the port side. You will be able to surf with that setup fairly easily.
            the WakeSlayer
            1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
            1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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            • Burk
              • Jul 2009
              • 19



              #7
              RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

              UPDATE!!!

              Thank you all for your help, and I've got this thing dialed in now! I loaded 650 lbs on the port side engine compartment + a new 350 Sac I got this week on the Port Side back seat. My wife towed me around the lake for miles, it was a perfect! Tonight it's her turn!

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              • WakeSlayer
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Sep 2005
                • 2069

                • Silver Creek, MN

                • 1968 Mustang

                #8
                RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

                Sweet dude. Have fun!
                the WakeSlayer
                1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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                • Burk
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 19



                  #9
                  RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

                  Another quick question, I've got a Right Hand rotating prop. Does that help the wake on the Starboard Side or Port Side?

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                  • WakeSlayer
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 2069

                    • Silver Creek, MN

                    • 1968 Mustang

                    #10
                    RE: 1999 SAN Surfing/Weighting

                    Starboard. But like i mentioned, my port wake is silly good.
                    the WakeSlayer
                    1999 Super Air - Python Powered <-- For Sale
                    1968 Correct Craft Mustang

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