CC196 Listing to the right

[rodltg2]

so i have recentley noticed that my 08 cc196 leans to the right while under way more so than usual lately. I first noticed it a few weekends back when I took my boat to a public lake on a camping trip. i rarely take my boat anywhere other than private ski lakes, so i assumed it was riding wierd due to the choppy , deeper water. it was just my myself and my wife and hardly any gear. so i thought it should be riding some what evenly even though she is about 40lbs lighter. didnt think much more of it and figured i would worry about it if it did it at the ski lake. well, its still does it and at first i began thinking maybe im just focusing on it too much and its normal , specially since we ski with the driver only in the boat. then last saturday we had another nautique , same as mine out at the lake which i drove. it rode noticeably level compared to mine. it seems its worse at slower speeds , when picking up the skier. i've checked the bilge , trunk, under the observer seat for anything that would cause extra weight on the right side . nothing. the prop and shaft seem fine and there is no vibration. could it be the trim on the rudder is off? i drove another nuatique same model different year yesterday and its also noticeably level compared to mine. maybe im just goin crazy???

it sits level when floating at the dock. it almost like driving a MC now with standard prop rotation

[WakeSlayer]

RE: CC196 Listing to the right

You must have water outboard of the of the starboard stringer. There really is nothing else that could cause this. Being an 08, I would take it to a dealer and let them figure it out.

[rodltg2]

i guess thats a possibility, but i dont know how it would have gotten in there from one day to the next. i never take water in since we are one private lake and we dont even load a wet skier in.??

[WakeSlayer]

i guess thats a possibility, but i dont know how it would have gotten in there from one day to the next.

You could take it out and set it on the trailer and see if it comes back out. But being that it is practically a new boat, under warranty, and there is no reason it should be taking on water, or listing at all, I really think it should go to the dealer. Only reason I am suggesting water is what else could it be? Is it getting worse or been the same.

[oldslalomskier]

Possible damage to fins or shaft/prop maybe?

[sodbuster88]

My '04 wants to do this as well. However, I notice that mine lists slightly to the right sitting still in the water. Interesting thought on water outside the starboard stringer. How would it get there? Isn't that a sealed, foam-filled area?

[WakeSlayer]

I guess in re-reading this, if it sits perfectly flat at idle, maybe this isn't the problem, but still. ...... I think if it is only under power, then oldslaloms suggestion of fins would maybe do that. Regardless, get it looked at to make sure.

[SNobsessed]

Ask the dealer to lift it up from the lifting rings. It wouldn't cost him much to do that & it would prove or disprove any off center weight issue. Beyond that, maybe the hull has developed a hook in it. If it was the rudder, steering wheel would pull. If it was a bent strut, you would get vibration.

Another possibility could be the tracking fins, maybe one is bent?

[skiinxs]

Have you changed props lately? Different amounts of cup can change the right / left trim at speed.
Dave

[DanielC]

At what speeds are you noticing the listing to the right? If you notice the list when cruising at about 25 MPH, and not at 36 MPH, I would not worry about it.
If you recently noticed a change when cruising at the same speed as before, with the exact same weight distribution, check things.
If you drive at different speeds, and are paying attention, you will notice a change in the side to side tilt, if you do not change the weighting. Higher speeds will pick up the starboard side of the boat, with a right hand propeller.
If something happened to the trim tab on the rudder, you would notice a different pull in the steering long before you noticed the listing.
Each boat is individually made. There might be some differences in how they lean, from boat to boat. Be aware of this when comparing your boat to another boat.
You might want to check the propeller shaft alignment, and see if it is good. While you have the coupler apart at the transmission, go under the boat and look to see if the prop shaft goes through the center of the shaft log (the hole) in the bottom of the boat.
The propshaft strut controls where the propshaft ends up by the engine. The engine then has to be shifted around to exactly the true position the end of the propshaft is, at exactly the same angle.
I have worked on two different boats that had a very slight bend on the shaft strut. If you adjusted the engine position to get the shaft alignment good, with a slightly bent strut, the engine could easily be moved over a 1/4 to maybe 3/8 of an inch off the centerline of the boat, and moving 800 or so pounds a 1/4 inch will affect the side to side list of the boat.
In one case of the bent strut, the owner said he never hit any thing, just ran the boat on shallow water with a sandy bottom, slowly while beaching it. This was another brand of boat, with a noticeably thinner strut than my boat. Just the torque of the engine, at idle with the prop on the sandy bottom, bent the strut.

[DealsGapCobra]

I am wondering if you found anything wrong?

[pj]

Is the listing getting worse over time? Or did it just start doing it one day and now remains constant? the 196 is extremely susceptible to weight placement. we have to use a counter weight in ours if there is no observer. are you storing the boom on that side or anything?