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  • behindpropellers
    • Apr 2008
    • 97

    • Chippewa Lake, Oh.


    Originally posted by NigelC


    With that profile, I wonder how they release the hull from the mold??
    They probably have a mold insert for it.

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    • oldslalomskier
      • Aug 2009
      • 131



      Not likley. They tilt/flip these things. MC does the same thing (as does Tige IIRC).

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      • behindpropellers
        • Apr 2008
        • 97

        • Chippewa Lake, Oh.


        Originally posted by oldslalomskier
        Not likley. They tilt/flip these things. MC does the same thing (as does Tige IIRC).
        Tilting and flipping has nothing to do with releasing from the mold.

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        • oldslalomskier
          • Aug 2009
          • 131



          Yeah actually it does. In fact MC won some award a few years back when they started releasing boats where the transom design precluded lifting the hull straight up. These reverse molds are a PITA to spray gel into. A two piece mold would be unworkable.

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          • Hollywood
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 1930

            • WIIL


            I'm with BHP, the the hull has to get out of the mold irregardless of it's orientation to the ground.

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            • oldslalomskier
              • Aug 2009
              • 131



              <sigh> MC and Tige make the really funky angles to their hulls (incl. the convex parts) by using lift/turn/twists at removal time. I'll look for the article and post it when I find it.

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              • oldslalomskier
                • Aug 2009
                • 131



                How does Tige produce this?

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                • Hollywood
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1930

                  • WIIL


                  So the boat comes forward and up at the same time, big deal?

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                  • DanielC
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2669

                    • West Linn OR

                    • 1997 Ski Nautique

                    Question:
                    How does Tige produce this?
                    Answer:
                    Carefully
                    I used to work in a factory that made parts by the lost wax process. We made a wax pattern in a metal die, and to get the wax pattern out, you had to disassemble the die. Some of the dies we ran warm so the wax would still be soft, and not break as the die was opened.
                    With the Tige' design, it looks like it would be fairly easy to pull the bow up out of the mold a little at first, and then work the hull forward, releasing the details on the transom from the mold.
                    I understand that when Mastercraft started to make the tri-hull (oops, picklefork) they had a lot of problems getting those boats out of the mold.

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                    • behindpropellers
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 97

                      • Chippewa Lake, Oh.


                      Originally posted by oldslalomskier
                      These reverse molds are a PITA to spray gel into. A two piece mold would be unworkable.
                      It has nothing to do with a two piece mold.

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                      • oldslalomskier
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 131



                        OK. Whatever you say.

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                        • INVNO1
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 103

                          • Southern Maine


                          Originally posted by j2nh
                          Good interview with Correct Craft President and CEO Bill Yeargin concerning the state of the industry in Boating Industry.
                          Keys for me: Consolidation and profitability at lower volumes.
                          .
                          read "build less boats and charge the customer more". Good luck with that.

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                          • j2nh
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 628

                            • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                            Originally posted by INVNO1
                            Originally posted by j2nh
                            Good interview with Correct Craft President and CEO Bill Yeargin concerning the state of the industry in Boating Industry.
                            Keys for me: Consolidation and profitability at lower volumes.
                            .
                            read "build less boats and charge the customer more". Good luck with that.
                            I don't necessarily see it that way. The key is a company's factory capacity (fixed cost) and utilization in a diminished market. Companies that expanded, MC, looking for huge sales increases are going to have a much harder time being profitable.

                            I do agree with the comments by Yeargin and other industry leaders that it will be a long time, if ever, before sales return to 06 -07 levels.
                            As mentioned in an earlier post, is production now limited by suppliers falling by the wayside limiting production? Does CC invest in key suppliers in and effort to maintain the ability to increase capacity and grab supplier profits?
                            Beats me, but 60 G slalom boats in todays tight credit market and uncertainty seems a bit optimistic. On the other hand I fail to understand the Dow knocking on the door of 10,000 so what the heck do I know.
                            2018 200 Team H6
                            2009 196 Team ZR 409
                            2005 196 Limited ZR 375
                            2003 196 Limited Excalibur
                            1999 196 Masters Edition
                            1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
                            1987 ProStar 190

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                            • cotton
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 225


                              • 2013 200 OB TEAM (ordered) 2011 200 OB (Sold) 2009 206 TEAM (Sold)

                              Originally posted by INVNO1
                              Originally posted by j2nh
                              Good interview with Correct Craft President and CEO Bill Yeargin concerning the state of the industry in Boating Industry.
                              Keys for me: Consolidation and profitability at lower volumes.
                              .
                              read "build less boats and charge the customer more". Good luck with that.

                              Good luck with that is right; I don't agree with this marketing strategy either. But, I did hear yesterday from a Mastercraft promo guy that he is buying his loaded out 2010 197 including tower, heater, etc., for what the CC promo guys will pay for the Standard Edition 200. If so, build less-charge more may very well be CC's strategy and they sure seem to know what they are doing, so we will see.

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                              • jdarwin
                                • Feb 2025
                                • 148

                                • Bossier City, Louisiana


                                Originally posted by oldslalomskier
                                Who cares?
                                I do - as do a lot of other shortline slalom skiers. The point is NOT what the top end of the boat is. But, if the boat's top speed is 41-43 mph, then what are the RPM's at 34/36? If the RPM's are 3600-3800 for 34mph, the boat will KICK YOUR *** in the slalom course. Period. The RPM's must be 3300-3500 for a good pull. I don't see a 3400rpm at 34 if the top end is only 41-43mph.

                                I've also heard it is slow to speed and that some changes are being made before the AWSA test. Not a big issue unless you have a short lake.

                                Now that a lot of the used 196 market is drying up, I think the value of those boats will level off and remain steady due to performance factors and price of the new hull. I'll be keeping my 07 w/ ZO for a few more years.

                                Also, it is becoming common to request to use older hulls to pull tournaments - and approval is being granted. MC and CC are worried about the direction of tournament towboats. They should be.
                                2007 SN 196
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                                Member CC Promo Team 1987 - 2005

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