No more World Champion Ski boat

[Chattwake]

RE: Pulling the stringers!

That's pretty rediclious if you ask me. You shouldn't like a boat any more just because it was the official blah blah blah boat - expecially if that is a title that can be bought. You should be proud of your boat because it is a quality machine and because it is the best boat on the market for YOU. If I thought MC made a better boat for what I want in a boat right now, I'd go buy one.

BTW, if you invited me out on your boat by telling me, "Hey, I just bought a new 200, which just so happens to be the blah blah blah boat that's won the blah blah blah award and is the absolute best boat on the market that ALL the pros use so you HAVE to come ski behind it" I would politely decline because, if that's your attitude, I'd probably kill myself within five minutes of being around you.

[JWAT]

I agree with GasMan here. The difference in company culture and loyalty to their employees between CC and MC are worlds apart (no pun intended). How many employees has MC laid off in the past year? How many plants have closed? How many suppliers are suffering because of MCs poor decisions? The only place MC has left to invest right now is marketing. They need to off inventory.

CC on the other hand, during the same time frame has laid off very few...

When I took a factory tour about a month ago, the number that they told me had been laid off was a lot more than "very few."

[etwman]

I also wonder why everyone on PN assumes that it was CC's decision. Maybe the IWSF went with MC because of their comfort with the 190/197 compared to the new CC 200. Isn't this plausible?[/quote]

Anyone ever give thought to the possible obvious that's staring you right in the face. Who went to Mastercraft a couple years ago? Hmmmmmm. Game on?

[Oletimeskier]

Anyone ever give thought to the possible obvious that's staring you right in the face. Who went to Mastercraft a couple years ago? Hmmmmmm. Game on?

You refering to the SECC?

[etwman]

That and the influence they have on MC, and information I'm sure they've gathered over the years.

It's just a thought. But I just find the whole thing ironic.

[Oletimeskier]

That and the influence they have on MC, and information I'm sure they've gathered over the years.

It's just a thought. But I just find the whole thing ironic.

Interesting thought and it does make you wonder!

It is very possible as all/ most of the Meloons have left CC and some have gone on to represent other competing manufactures boats. And with that I imagine they could bring alot of inside industry info and contact clout that can be used against CC.

We will just have to see how this plays out.

[MikeC]

Everyone acts like this is some huge corporate espionage scandal - it's not that big of a deal. It's just a sponsorship deal, they come and go all the time. If you ask 98% of all boat owners the following questions here's what their answers would be;
what are the waterski world championships? I have no clue, didn't know they had any
where were they held last year? I don't know, Florida maybe
what was the official tow boat? Does it really matter
and who was the overall mens winner? hmmmmmmmm

I'm not saying the world's are not important (although Jamie Beauchesne and many other top pros don't seem to think so), but really, from a marketing standpoint, other than us hard core skiers no one knows about them. I'm willing to bet that most Nautique owners don't know about them. And I'm sure that the fact that Correct Craft is no longer the official boat of IWSF will not cause their walls to start crumbling. It's just business.

[Hollywood]

Lots of wild assumptions in this thread.

[RLS]

@MikeC That is one of the best post I have seen.

[SNMike]

And then, why only the worlds?
Masters vs laying off more employees...
Big Daw vs laying off more employees...
Wateski magazine adds vs laying off more employees...
R & D vs laying off more employees...

I call this statements demagogy.

Well then, you haven't been paying attention to my post's all these years. That adjective isn't in my being, down to the bone marrow budro.

[actman]

pride in the name of love ....or nautique

Chattwake I see your point. But I also noticed on this site you enjoy showing off your boat and what you have done to make it look hot. I guess thats your way of showing off the pride you have in it! When I was small my parents did not have the money for expensive toys so I sat in the water behind a 14' bow rider with a low power merc waiting till almost dark for my turn to ski the course on our public lake. The only way I could come close to skiing behind a Nautique was to dream about it by viewing the pages in Waterki-Spay magazine. Maybe I got brainwashed with all the Ads leaning toward what boats won what tournaments. But it did one thing for me it made me want and pick Nautique once I started working and I could aford to get one. So for someone like me I think its important as to what manufacture gets the chance to show off there boat. Especially if they have a very new hot model claiming to be the best ever. As for a ride in my boat your welcome to it anytime as long as you pass on some good tips for making it look awesome!

[teamseal]

World championships series

I have followed this thred for a while and thought I would put my .02 cents in.
Keep in mind Nautiques are trying to re-invent them selves, the old guard ideals are being put in the past. Lessons learned drives the decisions that are being made to some extent or another. the lesson learned with the Iwwsf is what did they have to offer? The IWWSF was not intrested in being a business partner but they wanted to be that of a spoiled child. Holding championship tournaments in back water holes in way out the way places of the world does not sell boats for Nautiques. Nautiques have enjoyed some of the marketing perks with the exclusivity of the World championship series however the IWWSF fails time and time again to bring their ideals and intersists in line with the interest of their sponsering boat company.
Nautiques did make an offer and submited a proposed contract that they felt was in line with what the IWWSF had to offer. MC also put forth a proposal and contract that they felt was int Their best interest, The IWWSF took the MC contract.
What impact will this have on Nautiques? Not much to be gained nor not much lost as again MC agreed to provide product to back water holes in way out of the places of the world where very few real buyers will see these products.
Nautiques will continue to provide support and product to the true jewels of the three event world, that being the US Masters, the Moomba Masters and also the Big Dawg and US National championships. keep in mind also that the Canadian National waterski Championships are Nautiques exclusive.
In todays economic climate will MC be able to fulfill their agreement? or will they see the light and bail?

[SNMike]

Re: World championships series

I have followed this thred for a while and thought I would put my .02 cents in.
Keep in mind Nautiques are trying to re-invent them selves, the old guard ideals are being put in the past. Lessons learned drives the decisions that are being made to some extent or another. the lesson learned with the Iwwsf is what did they have to offer? The IWWSF was not intrested in being a business partner but they wanted to be that of a spoiled child. Holding championship tournaments in back water holes in way out the way places of the world does not sell boats for Nautiques. Nautiques have enjoyed some of the marketing perks with the exclusivity of the World championship series however the IWWSF fails time and time again to bring their ideals and intersists in line with the interest of their sponsering boat company.
Nautiques did make an offer and submited a proposed contract that they felt was in line with what the IWWSF had to offer. MC also put forth a proposal and contract that they felt was int Their best interest, The IWWSF took the MC contract.
What impact will this have on Nautiques? Not much to be gained nor not much lost as again MC agreed to provide product to back water holes in way out of the places of the world where very few real buyers will see these products.
Nautiques will continue to provide support and product to the true jewels of the three event world, that being the US Masters, the Moomba Masters and also the Big Dawg and US National championships. keep in mind also that the Canadian National waterski Championships are Nautiques exclusive.
In todays economic climate will MC be able to fulfill their agreement? or will they see the light and bail?

An excellent point.

[maxpower220]

Research before making statements.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/de...ll-73-workers/

How many employees has MC laid off in the past year? How many plants have closed? How many suppliers are suffering because of MCs poor decisions? The only place MC has left to invest right now is marketing. They need to off inventory.

CC on the other hand, during the same time frame has laid off very few, kept production going, and invested in their employees by offering quality training during production downtime. My $0.02.

[GoBig]

MaxPower,
Your article substantiates my statements, thanks for posting that. Lets do some math big guy:

At the peak, MC employed 650 people at the Vonore plant.
It has rehired 281 since July bringing the new TOTAL to 325.
So at the low, they only had 44 employees, a reduction from 650 (or 93%!). Even with the latest rehires, their workforce is still 50% of what it was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but CC did not let go of 50% of it's workforce, much less 93% as MC did over the past two years. So what again is inaccurate about my post? Give your article another read and do some math dude.