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  • 93nautique0710
    • Aug 2009
    • 173

    • east tn

    • 1993 ski nautique 196

    How fast u need to barefoot

    I have 93 196 with 351 pro boss how fast do I need to barefoot is this model able to with stand the speed what prop will I need for barefoot and is there a prop I could use for wakeboarding and barefoot
  • NautiqueJeff
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    • Mar 2002
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    • TRST
      • Mar 2009
      • 44



      #3
      The old rule of thumb is divide your body weight by 10 and add 20. So a 200lb footer would go 40mph. Most can go slower than the formula especially with a boom. For longliine your 196 should be able to keep a full size footer at 40+ mph with the OEM prop.
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      • 93nautique0710
        • Aug 2009
        • 173

        • east tn

        • 1993 ski nautique 196

        #4
        Thanks I didn't know want to try it this year looks fun and painful I thought u had to go like 46 mph I would have killed myself but 36mph is the right crusing speed for my boat

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        • CradGen2
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Aug 2020
          • 1343

          • Horseheads NY

          • 1999 Ski 2000 Sport 2004 SV21 2007 216 1992 Malibu flightcraft 2008 210 2006 ski 2012 - 210 2016 BU 23lsv 1998 Sport 1997 Super Sport

          #5
          Get someone to take you for the first time. Buy the following (all at the same time) Boom, Barefoot suit (Eagle are a little more comfortable and Barefoot international have more padding), Both need a pair of BF shorts for under the suits. I BF handle. If you are going to try this long line, DON'T USE A STRETCH ROPE for your safety and the people in the boat.


          Barefooting is a serious sport. I've known people critically injury trying to learn the wrong way.

          BECAREFULLLLLLLLLLL

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          • WakeSlayer
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 2069

            • Silver Creek, MN

            • 1968 Mustang

            #6
            Yeah, you want to get the feel just hanging onto the boom. Not even a short line. The best money spent after your suit and a cup, is taking a day clinic from the likes of Lane, Seipel, Scarpa, etc. You will learn a decade's worth of skills in one day. You really need to have a good driver too.

            Posture and glide.
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            • swc5150
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              • May 2008
              • 2240

              • Eau Claire, WI

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              #7
              You may also want to attempt your first behind-the-boat run by starting off a kneeboard. It's a much easier way to learn than stepping off a ski - although that's how my older brother made me learn as a kid! Once up on the kneeboard, turn your body around so you're sitting facing the boat. Plant your feet in the water, then have the driver slowly speed up the boat until you're able to stand up. Much easier on the body than those trial and error face plants!
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              • pzthk6
                • Mar 2008
                • 68

                • St Cloud, FL

                • 2014 SAN 210 2007 SANTE 220 1989 Centurion Barefoot Warrior Comp 1991 Concept 21' CC

                #8
                The best way to learn is with a boom, like most other water sports. And the boom allows you to go typically 3 to 4 mph slower. If you don't have a boom the next best training way is to use the old style tubes with a hole in the center and handles up front. Sit on the back and put your feet through the middle. As you feel comfortable with the position, you can pull the tube up around your waiste. If you fall the tube acts as cushioning and you can pull yourself back up through the center, and start the process over again.

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                • 93nautique0710
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 173

                  • east tn

                  • 1993 ski nautique 196

                  #9
                  I do want to purchase a boom and I'm taking all off your advise I tryed the kneeboard once and it hit me in the head so The boom is a must and I know to keep your toes up knees bent I think I'll have a good time

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                  • 93nautique0710
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 173

                    • east tn

                    • 1993 ski nautique 196

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pzthk6 View Post
                    The best way to learn is with a boom, like most other water sports. And the boom allows you to go typically 3 to 4 mph slower. If you don't have a boom the next best training way is to use the old style tubes with a hole in the center and handles up front. Sit on the back and put your feet through the middle. As you feel comfortable with the position, you can pull the tube up around your waiste. If you fall the tube acts as cushioning and you can pull yourself back up through the center, and start the process over again.
                    I like that look funny but it will work

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                    • Mikeski
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 2908

                      • San Francisco, CA

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                      #11
                      I prefer to teach people to deep water start. It's a bit hardcore but I find the falls are not as hard as other start methods. By comparison I think it's easier to teach somebody how to barefoot than it is to teach them a deep start on a single ski. As with anything new, it's easiest to learn it on the boom first. Half of the equation is the driver too. I was self taught off the kneeboard then graduated to deep starts, booms did not exist in 1977. I was a very poor footer until I got some decent instructions and some boom time 10 years later. My tumble-turns are still very ugly.

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                      • AirTool
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4049

                        • Katy, Texas


                        #12
                        Only buy Eagle suits. They are made right here in Houston custom designed and custom built.

                        Andre will be in Houston almost all summer and will be offering training classes. There are also some events planned around the country. There will likely be dates Ron Scarpa and others will be here. Please PM or email me if interested. I don't want to be an obvious advertiser...but I would like to provide useful information to anyone interested.

                        Here is a link to last year's videos to start getting people in the mood. I still have lots of raw video for a few mores clips...but this &#*!@# economy and lack of offshore projects has me working my tail off to keep alive.

                        BE SURE TO STAY ON CHANNEL "portSIDEboom" TO SEE ONLY MY VIDEOS.

                        http://www.youtube.com/portsideboom#p/u
                        Last edited by AirTool; 02-26-2010, 07:21 PM.

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                        • sodbuster88
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 368

                          • Clayton, NC


                          #13
                          I prefer to teach people to deep water start. It's a bit hardcore but I find the falls are not as hard as other start methods. By comparison I think it's easier to teach somebody how to barefoot than it is to teach them a deep start on a single ski. As with anything new, it's easiest to learn it on the boom first. Half of the equation is the driver too. I was self taught off the kneeboard then graduated to deep starts, booms did not exist in 1977. I was a very poor footer until I got some decent instructions and some boom time 10 years later. My tumble-turns are still very ugly.
                          Good advice.....And here's some more....I think you'll find you don't need to go as fast as you think. General rule of thumb for me is (body weight / 10)+15. So for 200 pounder, that's 35mph. You can do this if you flatten out your feet and let the water break just behind the ball of your foot. Also, bringing your knees together (to keep spay out of the face) and feet out to shoulder width just behind knees will get more foot surface area on the water. Great technique that will allow you to slow the boat down a little.
                          Peace..

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                          • 93nautique0710
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 173

                            • east tn

                            • 1993 ski nautique 196

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sodbuster88 View Post
                            Good advice.....And here's some more....I think you'll find you don't need to go as fast as you think. General rule of thumb for me is (body weight / 10)+15. So for 200 pounder, that's 35mph. You can do this if you flatten out your feet and let the water break just behind the ball of your foot. Also, bringing your knees together (to keep spay out of the face) and feet out to shoulder width just behind knees will get more foot surface area on the water. Great technique that will allow you to slow the boat down a little.
                            Can't wait to get out there and give it a shot on some glass water

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                            • DanielC
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2669

                              • West Linn OR

                              • 1997 Ski Nautique

                              #15
                              You neglected to tell where you live, but it is not really necessary. If you are in the Midwest, chances are you are close to a show ski club that will be happy to teach you to barefoot.
                              http://www.showskiers.com/teamsbylocation.htm

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