2001 SAN questions

[Flux]

Looking into buying a 2001-2003 SAN. Found a local add, but the details were slim, mostly about the add-ons and such. Questions are:

Do all 2001 SAN's have the 3 way hatches on the sundeck (motor + 2 storage), and do they all come standard with the rear and center ballasts ~900 lbs ???

These questions seem a little dumb, but these details will make or break the decision on buying a SAN. Gotta have the ballast and the storage hatches for gear accessible from the swimstep. Thanks in advance.

[skinautique]

Flux,
They all have the three sections to the rear sundeck. In 2001, they used a black "plastic" looking latch (they weren't plastic though). In 2002 and 2003, they had an electrical button that you used to open them up. The ballast in the boat equals 850. They are standard in the Team edition boats that started in 2002. If it is a 2002, it will not have the belly tank which was 350 of the weight. The belly tank came standard on the 2003 and newer team edition 210's. You can have the dealer add ballast tanks to any of those boats if they do not have them or you can fill them with fat sacs. Hope that helps out.

[Flux]

So a 2001 SAN will have the rear tanks, but no center tank???

I am just trying to get my info straight on this boat. I could ask the guy selling it, but don't want to get him going because really I can't go after a boat for three months anyway. Thanks again.

[skinautique]

There is no guarantee that this boat will have the tanks. Do you have a picture of it? If I see the side of it, I can see the extra holes on it for draining purposes.

[jhiestand]

So a 2001 SAN will have the rear tanks, but no center tank???

Right. It wasn't until 2002, when they dropped the floor and widened the 'locker' area that CC added a belly tank. I asked my dealer whether the center tank could be added and and since the floor is completely different after '01, they said it wouldn't be possible. On a positive note, you can put fat sack in the locker compartment that has nearly twice the capacity of the hard tank in a newer SAN.

[skinautique]

The hard tank wasn't offered standard on the team until 2003. I haven't seen a 2002 team edition with a belly tank.

[Flux]

I don't have a pic, but if I go further with this I will get pics, see, and of course drive it. Actually, we would probably plumb in a larger ballast system anyway, the locker sack thing is cool regardless, and I have seen a company that makes hard tanks in just about any size you could imagine.

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.

[ag4ever]

Skinautique,

Just so you feel more complete, here is a picture of my belly tank in my '02 SANTE.



I know it is a bad pic, but at least you can now say you have seen it in an '02 Team.

[skinautique]

That is news to me. I never saw a 2002 team edition with the belly tank. I apologize.

[cdm]

So the 05' I ordered has a belly tank but there could be more ballast if it were not installed and I used a larger sac? Anyone know if you can order an 05' SANTE without the center ballast tank? Would you? I have concerns that I will not be able to add enough hidden water ballast. anyone use sacs under the bow seats. is there enough room? or will I have to use a lot more lead. Stock ballast in 05' = ??? Can the center tank be removed after factory install?

thanks

CDM

[skinautique]

cdm,
The stock ballast in a 210 is 850 pounds. It would be a real pain to remove the belly tank after it was installed. If I am not mistaken, you can order just the rear tanks but you might have to get a limited to do it. You can put lead or other weight up in the bow though.

[ag4ever]

The tank can be removed, but it is a real PITA. You must pull the gas tank, and other misc stuff on the bottom of the hull, then unbolt the tank and slide it out where the gas tank is. It can be done, and mine has been out since the drain from under the front seats on my boat was filled with floatation foam, and the dealer had to pull the belly tank to get to the drain tube to unclog it. They said they were cussing the factory on that one the whole time they were fixing it.

When we bought our boat (Oct '02) there were two SANTEs on the dealer's floor. One black/grey one equiped like mine except no belly tank and had a heater, and mine. We got the one we did because we were afraid how hot the deck would be on a black boat in texas and because of how hard it would be to add the belly tank. Now I kinda wish i did not have it, as some nice storage would be nice there, and I could put my 500 pounds of lead bars i have there and still have more storage and weight than that tank ever gives me. Also the SAN desperatly needs more weight up front and in the middle to give it better handling and cruising characteristics.

[cdm]

ag4ever and all,

thanks for the feedback!! im going to contact my dealer to see what the chances are of building my team without the center tank. I guess Im interested in having the rear wedge tanks removed/ omitted as well!!

Good idea or no? I don't think the normal tanks and additional sacs on the tanks will be enough weight and one system would be all around better, imo. I need to push the ZR6!

Questions...more...lol..

How much more ballast weight could I add by not having the hard tanks?

Would a larger custom sac fit in the rear compartments, (tanks removed)(larger than a normal full fat sac type bag)? What would the largest bag one could fit weigh? 600+ lbs..

How much lead in the nose would I have to run to counter the weight? What are people running for weight? and I really want to avoid visible sacs... any suggestions and feedback would be great!

CDM

[jhiestand]

CDM, in addition to the center bag I plumbed into my 'ski' locker, I also plumbed two side sacks under the bow seats plus two regular-sized fat sacks on top of my flat rear tanks. The front side sacks won't quite fill all the way due to space restrictions, but they bring the nose down nicely. I only fill the rear sacks (in addition to the stock rear tanks) about half way. Overall, I probably run 1600lbs of water weight. I can go up to nearly 2000 lbs if I fill up the rear sacks but then I get a little sluggish coming on plane plus the wake gets a tad peaky.

Some pics of my install are on Wakeboarder.. (Suprair) http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewto...889&highlight=

[mike-d]

ballast

cdm,
I have been on some teams with over 3000pds, with the zr6 motor etc. The wake was awesome, it was done with mostly lead though, they had all the hard tanks in the boat etc.

I would order the boat with the tanks not installed, in case you want to sell the boat later. Plumb two 600pders in the back, 1000pd in the ski locker, or two 440s, 400 pounds up front. I dont think you can plumb bags up front, since they have the cooler in one of the seats, you might want to get that option deleted also.
good luck,
Mike
2001 san / 2500 pounds of ballast. Mostly water.