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  • waketherapy
    • Apr 2010
    • 9

    • lake macquarie aus

    • 08, 210

    Trying to get the biggest wake possible in 08 210

    at the moment i am willing to do anything to get my 210's wake good
    what are your thoughts?
    i have plenty of fatsacs but i want to know where to put them how many kgs etc
    if this doesnt work i might be tempted to invest in one of those wedge dragging devices:P
    so before i go to the dark side
    someone help me!
  • 210GA
    • Aug 2008
    • 282

    • Cartersville, Georgia

    • 2008 SANTE 210

    #2
    Put a 600 or 800 lb sack in the front bow and two 400's in the back (one 400 on right and one 400 on left) and then fill your factory tanks up. That puppy will throw a macnasty wake then!

    http://www.fatsacstore.com/nautique-boat-ballast.html

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    • jward
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Feb 2008
      • 620

      • Sweet Home Alabama

      • 03 SANTE 04 SANTE

      #3
      what kind of wake are you looking for? Big wake with some vert, or big rampy wake. Also, what do you not like about your wake right now? What have you been doing with your added weight so far?

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      • migs
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Aug 2008
        • 702

        • San Mateo, CA

        • SAN 210 TE

        #4
        put a sack in each of the rear compartments, one in the floor in the middle of the boat, and one in the bow. Start with that - that should do it.
        Your boat already has a hydrogate that shapes your wake - pull it back and it will make your wake steeper.
        Migs

        G21 - En route
        SAN 210 TE (Finally)
        06 Sky Supreme V220(previous)
        05 Sanger V210(previous)
        01 MC X1(previous)
        99 Air Warrior(previous)

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        • Latonkaboarder
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jul 2007
          • 372

          • Mercer, Pennsylvania

          • 81 Ski Nautique when growing up 2007 SANTE 210 2008 SANTE 210

          #5
          I just changed my set up this year from what I used to run. I used to run a 400lb in each rear locker and the integrated bow sac in the nose. All this on top of stock. This year I changed out my 400lb sacs for 750lb sacs in the lockers. Still use the integrated box sac in the nose under the front seat but now also put one of my 400lb sacs on the floor inbetween the front seats and walkthrough. This set up is great! I noticed it really helps with the porpoising issue with the zero off. Just becareful not to take a wave over the nose.
          Current: 08 Super Air 210 Team
          Previous: 07 Super Air 210 Team
          Previous: 02 MC Pro Star 197

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          • waketherapy
            • Apr 2010
            • 9

            • lake macquarie aus

            • 08, 210

            #6
            well at the moment
            im running 400lbs in each rear locker
            and 500lbs in nose and 500lbs in walkway
            but i want the wake to be steap
            its really rampy but has no kick

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            • hourglass
              • Mar 2010
              • 248

              • lower bama

              • 2005 SANTE

              #7
              1100lbs in the bow(fly high bow sac) and some lead, 400lbs on the floor at the back seat, and a 400 on each side of the engine and a new prop. probably be riding about 23.5 at 75', 24ish at 80, and closer to 25mph at 85'.

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              • 210GA
                • Aug 2008
                • 282

                • Cartersville, Georgia

                • 2008 SANTE 210

                #8
                Originally posted by waketherapy View Post
                well at the moment
                im running 400lbs in each rear locker
                and 500lbs in nose and 500lbs in walkway
                but i want the wake to be steap
                its really rampy but has no kick

                Your wake should be pretty big then. If you're trying to make it bigger to catch more air for tricks or w2w, try working on your edge (if wakeboarding) into the wake. Stiff legs and edge creates pop.

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                • jimmyj
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 87



                  #9
                  put the gate thing down. with the gate down and weighted correctly, that wake can be every bit as dense and steep as the old 210. but it will have about twice as much mass.

                  that amount of weight, it should be going off. you are doing something wrong if you cant get any "kick" off of it. that wake is much much much more dense than any one of the boats that drags one of them wedges.

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                  • migs
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 702

                    • San Mateo, CA

                    • SAN 210 TE

                    #10
                    See that silver knob next to the throttle(next to the window) - thats your hydrogate - it should be pulled back just like it is in this picture. If you have it pushed forward - then your wake will be rampy with no lip like you describe. But if you pull it back then your wake will be steep with lots of kick.
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                    Migs

                    G21 - En route
                    SAN 210 TE (Finally)
                    06 Sky Supreme V220(previous)
                    05 Sanger V210(previous)
                    01 MC X1(previous)
                    99 Air Warrior(previous)

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                    • xrichard
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 667

                      • El Dorado Hills

                      • 2023 G23

                      #11
                      If the old 210 hull is a "10" on the steepness scale and the typically weighted VLX is a "1", I think the new hull is easily configured to be a 7...about 3/4 of the way between a VLX and old 210.

                      I think you need more rear-bias for a steeper wake.

                      FWIW, my configuration--a 7 on the steepness scale:
                      stock ballast: +/- 770lbs
                      Rear lockers: 2x 400lb v-drive sacks filled approx. 2/3...+/- 500lbs
                      Front locker: 1x tube sac...measured the volume and it should weigh +/-210lbs (might replace w/the new W721)
                      +160 lbs lead
                      Middle: 3x 50lbs lead = 150lbs (I keep one under each side seat and one in the cockpit that we move from side to side to balance the boat)

                      Total rear: 1020
                      Total middle: 150
                      Total front: 620
                      Total: 1790

                      So...a strong rear bias. It's pretty steep, but might not be as big as you want. On the other hand, getting well into the flats isn't a problem--and something I avoid anyway because my knees won't take it. My knees barely take w2w...lol. For folks who like a less steep wake, I can drop the weight out of the v-drive sacks in the rear (keeping stock ballast filled), and the shape becomes more rampy.

                      The downside is I occasionally get minor porpoising even after the new antenna/software. Latonka has it right: add weight to the front and you'll get rid of it.

                      We usually ride between 22.5 and 23.5 at 70-75' depending on the rider.

                      Lowering the hydrogate (e.g. pushing the lever forward) creates lift under the stern and completely messes up the wake.

                      If I wanted bigger but still steep, I'd move toward Latonka's setup, but I'm not a fan of extra sacks on the floor--it takes time and is inconvenient wrt moving around the boat.
                      Previous boats:
                      2015 G23
                      2008 SAN 210
                      2002 XStar
                      1995 Sport Nautique

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                      • BHog
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 207

                        • Rockwall, TX


                        #12
                        if you go to the other side you will have a very rampy wake.

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                        • JWAT
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 527

                          • NE Indiana

                          • 1997 Super Sport/Super Air Nautique 2008 Super Air Nautique 210

                          #13
                          Here's my setup and it should be plenty big enough to throw any trick behind. I ride at 24.3 mph and an 80' long rope.

                          - 400 lb. sac on top of each stock tank in back
                          - integrated bow sac under the open bow seats
                          - sac that completely fills the ski locker under the floor in the walkway
                          - 250 lbs. of lead under the seats in the cabin of the boat (125 on each side)
                          - 50 lbs. of lead in the bow of the boat
                          - hydrogate pulled all the way back
                          2008 Super Air Nautique 210TE

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                          • waketherapy
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9

                            • lake macquarie aus

                            • 08, 210

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 210GA View Post
                            Your wake should be pretty big then. If you're trying to make it bigger to catch more air for tricks or w2w, try working on your edge (if wakeboarding) into the wake. Stiff legs and edge creates pop.
                            no sarcasm
                            but i know how to ride
                            i just hate that my 210's wake doesnt even compare to my coaches vlx.
                            my gates down and wat not
                            wakes still bad..
                            someone pleaseee help!

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                            • hourglass
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 248

                              • lower bama

                              • 2005 SANTE

                              #15
                              seriously. please try this. go put 1100lbs in the bow. then put 400 on each side in the rear, and 400+ on the floor. if you don't like that i don't know what to tell ya. just be careful if you have a few folks with you when you stop so you don't nose dive

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