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  • 2gofaster
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2008
    • 671

    • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


    #1

    200 v drive?

    I'm hearing rumors of a 200 in a V Drive configuration pulling Chris Parrish deep, deep shortline in testing. I heard the boat is sweet! Anyone else hear anything?
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  • jedgell
    • Jul 2003
    • 170

    • Bozeman, MT

    • 2004 SN 196

    #2
    I heard that they are going to make a 200 V drive, heard it from the local promo guy. I imagine it would ski well, but nothing like the DD.
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    • 2gofaster
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • May 2008
      • 671

      • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


      #3
      Originally posted by jedgell View Post
      I heard that they are going to make a 200 V drive, heard it from the local promo guy. I imagine it would ski well, but nothing like the DD.
      I was told that if you didn't know it was a v drive, you couldn't tell the difference at the handle end.
      Shane Hill
      2014 Team 200OB
      67 '13 Prophecy

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      • j2nh
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        • Dec 2003
        • 628

        • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


        #4
        Anybody remember the Infinity ski boat? V-Drive and a wake that would rival the best out there. V-Drive in a 200 would depend on the location of the engine.
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        • 2gofaster
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • May 2008
          • 671

          • Stevenson Lake-Conroe, Texas


          #5
          Originally posted by j2nh View Post
          Anybody remember the Infinity ski boat? V-Drive and a wake that would rival the best out there. V-Drive in a 200 would depend on the location of the engine.
          No, this is a traditional rear engine v drive, not mid engine v drive like the infinity.
          Shane Hill
          2014 Team 200OB
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          • swc5150
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2008
            • 2240

            • Eau Claire, WI

            • MasterCraft Prostar

            #6
            Originally posted by j2nh View Post
            Anybody remember the Infinity ski boat? V-Drive and a wake that would rival the best out there. V-Drive in a 200 would depend on the location of the engine.
            The Infinity had awesome performance with its center-mounted V drive. I envision a 200 rear mounted V drive, fully equipped with a tower and ballast system - "Super Air 200" on the way.
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            • Nautiquehunter
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2080

              • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

              • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

              #7
              I dont get it? DD= ski VD= wakeboard?

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              • swc5150
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                • May 2008
                • 2240

                • Eau Claire, WI

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nautiquehunter View Post
                I dont get it? DD= ski VD= wakeboard?
                To this point, essentially yes. Engine placement in each variation is more conducive to the associated discipline.
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                • Quinner
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 2246

                  • Unknown

                  • Correct Crafts

                  #9
                  Rumor I heard is it has a strange profile?? New Colors coming also.

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                  • maxpower220
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 116

                    • Florida


                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nautiquehunter View Post
                    I dont get it? DD= ski VD= wakeboard?
                    That is because ski boat makers don't think "outside of the box". Part of the configuration makes sense for it's use, but really no one is doing the R&D to make a rear engine ski boat. At best, they are looking for a comprimise to make a "crossover boat".
                    I still don't know why everybody puts the gas tank in the rear of the boat. Why not, move the engine back a few inches and put the gas tank in front of it at the CG. Gas level would have less effect on wake: just my thought. Also, the hull running surface on boat is the beam of the boat, why not narrow the hull running surface and increase the beam well above the water line to; improve wake and increase space in the boat. I realize this will have an impact on turning, but ski boats really are made to run the course and straight lines.

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                    • swc5150
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                      • May 2008
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                      • Eau Claire, WI

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by maxpower220 View Post
                      That is because ski boat makers don't think "outside of the box". Part of the configuration makes sense for it's use, but really no one is doing the R&D to make a rear engine ski boat. At best, they are looking for a comprimise to make a "crossover boat".
                      I still don't know why everybody puts the gas tank in the rear of the boat. Why not, move the engine back a few inches and put the gas tank in front of it at the CG. Gas level would have less effect on wake: just my thought. Also, the hull running surface on boat is the beam of the boat, why not narrow the hull running surface and increase the beam well above the water line to; improve wake and increase space in the boat. I realize this will have an impact on turning, but ski boats really are made to run the course and straight lines.
                      The Infinity utilized the fuel forward concept, and moved the engine back slightly. It was a great design for slalom (not sure about trick or jump), that just didn't catch on due to timing and brand recognition. I'd love to see an established company like CC take concepts from it. Safvara tried, but made it look goofy, and they don't have the 3 event reputation behind them.
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                      • gride300
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 1356

                        • mobile, al


                        #12
                        my dream boat would be a true v-drive open bow 200 w/ a tower. when i say true i mean rear mounted engine.

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                        • swc5150
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                          • May 2008
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                          • Eau Claire, WI

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                          #13
                          If it's true, I'll bet they sell a bunch. It could be the ultimate crossover boat.
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                          • SkiTundra
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                            • Jul 2008
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                            #14
                            Slalom better than a 211? Wakeboard better than a 211? Why would a Christian company like CC create marital problems like this?

                            I'm still waiting for the Tesla powered Nautique. Batteries are constant weight and can be separated and placed for optimum weight distribution. The engine is much smaller than a V8 and weighs about half (though engine + batts is about equal to V8 + fuel) so overall there are much better design options than a gas powered system.

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                            • MattieK27
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 258

                              • Chicago Burbs

                              • 2011 X1

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SkiTundra View Post
                              Slalom better than a 211? Wakeboard better than a 211? Why would a Christian company like CC create marital problems like this?

                              I'm still waiting for the Tesla powered Nautique. Batteries are constant weight and can be separated and placed for optimum weight distribution. The engine is much smaller than a V8 and weighs about half (though engine + batts is about equal to V8 + fuel) so overall there are much better design options than a gas powered system.
                              You realize boats are a lot less efficient than cars, right? Water produces a large amount of drag. Tesla can barely manage 200 miles on a charge, and their "system" added 1000lbs to the weight of the Lotus Elise, the car the Tesla is largely based off of. More weight, less range; doesnt sound too promising for boats at this time.

                              This v-drive boat greatly interests me. I want a good cross over boat, but want something smaller than whats currently out there. I will be very excited to see this...

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