Decisions, Decisions: Should I sell my X and buy a 210?

[ronskal]

I am torn between keeping my 04 MC X2 and trading/selling to get a new 09 210TE.
Of course here on PN I hope and expect yo'all to egg me on to go with new 210.

I have a good deal for a trade-in and a good price for the new boat which is Silver Cloud with a black top deck stripe. Nice boat and the GF likes it (we have not seen it in person only photos). If it sells before I decide, then oh well since the dealer in Austin, TX is getting a lot of interest.

My hang-ups besides shelling out the money (my MC is long paid for) and having payments is the FC3 tower will not allow me to garage store the boat so I would have to rent storage. Also, I really do not know if the 210 wake will be better, worse or just different. I may need a test pull for that. I'm not at all hard core, too old for that. Just love to ride. Oh, the other thing is it has a tower bimini and not the Z5 rack which seems all world.

For me only Nautique and MC are what I've come down to as far as buying another boat, not bagging on Malibu (3rd on list) or the other good brands. Right now the 210 is the finalist or keep what I have for now.

Thanks..............

[bkhallpass]

I'm a CC fanatic, but I wouldn't make that deal. If your boat is paid for, I'd keep it and run the **** out of it until we are in a bit better economic times. Buying a depreciating asset, particularly when the stock market and every other element of the economy are all over the map, and particularly if you'll have to make payments, just doesn't make financial sense. You already have a boat that will do essentially everything the new boat will do. Take advantage of someone else's misery. Go buy a rental house at rock bottom prices, with rock bottom interest rates, and in 5 years, you'll have either enough equity to pay for a new boat outright, or enough cash flow to make your payments for you. Make your money work as hard for you as you work for it.

Just my opinion. I am not a financial advisor by trade.

BKH

[gride300]

well i had an 05 x-2. i can tell you what i miss from it now that i have an 05 210.
the board racks on it were light years better than even cc's new spinners
the bimini was amazing
and that's about it. my buddy has an 09 with fct3. i like it alot. just put boards on the bottom slot or get a z5 cargo and avoid the problem totally. the speakers rotating are fun on it as well. as for the wake, i think the new 210 hull is more comparable to the hull you currently have than comparing previous 210's were. if you aren't having issues left and right and have a quality dealer i'd stick with the x.

[TRO]

i heard the new towers for 2011 are going to be similar to FCT 3, but fold a lot lower for storage in garages. i'd hold out with what you have and look at a 2011. that extra year of no payments will probably make up the difference in the money you'll save on a deal now.

[gride300]

ya but the new towers look like some moron welded leftover tubing together, IMO. if you have to have the fold height i guess it's ok though

[ronskal]

Good points by all of you and yes I am listening

Forums like PN have a higher IQ than the WW type forums!

I spent a good part of the weekend cleaning up the boat in case I wanted to sell but
even if I do not it almost looks new. Maybe if they sort out the FC3 to be more garage friendly in a year or so. BKH made a good point on financials, I hardly look at my investments due to the market. My house is almost paid for (2-4 years if I get after it) and it may become a rental when I get married and move into the my girlfriends house. Alternatively, I could sell the house but it would be a sin to buy a boat with that money.

If the towers next year fold down more that would help.

Thanks again.......

[Chexi]

You never said how much you would have to shell out for the CC, but assuming that it is more than a nominal amount, I would concur with the others and say stick with what you have. You have a great boat with a great wake. The move would be fairly lateral, and any changes in wake characteristics are going to be negligible for your. If you are really good, you can ride all the good wakeboard boat wakes and do all your tricks. If you suck (like me), you can ride all of the good wakeboard boat wakes and not land any tricks. The point is, it's like golf clubs... we like to think (and the marketers like to push the idea), that if we just got that new set of clubs our game would radically improve, but the truth is, it's not the clubs.

[ronskal]

Chexi, it is a lot of money for sure. Like to keep hard numbers out of the discussion on of the forum, obviously everyone wants the best deal but boat prices are regional.

Forgot to add that I am aiming for a bigger boat more than anything but I do not want a 22-24 foot destroyer.

[horkn]

I am a CC fanatic as well, but it's not like the X2 is a pile. Its a nice boat, and because it is paid for already, its the best boat you can have.

If I were in your position, i would keep the MC, especially with a wedding upcoming.

[ronskal]

I am a CC fanatic as well, but it's not like the X2 is a pile. Its a nice boat, and because it is paid for already, its the best boat you can have.

If I were in your position, i would keep the MC, especially with a wedding upcoming.

Oh it will be a cheap shotgun wedding, we are too cheap and old for all the pomp and circumstance!

Yes my X2 is s very good boat, compares well against the classic 210 of old except the wake is less radical.

[JWAT]

Until this winter, I owned a 1997 Super Sport/Super Air Nautique and then I purchased a 2008 Super Air Nautique 210 this winter/spring. My buddy has a 2000 X-Star (same as your boat), so I have spent a ton of time in both of these boats.

Obviously it comes down to money, but my 08 SAN 210 seems SO MUCH BIGGER than my buddies x-star and he will tell you the same thing. There is so much more room in these new boats, that it is rediculous. Other things that I love about my new boat compared to the older x-series boats is the ability to easily integrate more sacs into the factory ballast system, zero off, spinning boardracks, better stereo, etc. Not to mention all of the updates manufacturers have made in the past 6 years to the interiors, etc.

Regarding the wakes, my old super sport/SAN and my buddies x-star both threw/throw great wakes, but they do not compare to the newer 210 in my opinion. There is just so much more mass behind the wakes on these bigger boats and the transitions are so much more smoother compared to the short transitions on the old SAN's and x-stars. FYI, we ran about 2300 lbs in my super sport, 2300 lbs in my buddies x-star and around 2800 lbs in my new SAN 210.

In closing, if you have the money, you will NOT be disappointed with the move to a new 210. I was really nervous about buying my new 210 because I was afraid I would not like the wake compared to my old boat and my buddies x-star, but it easily surpasses them both in my opinion.

[gride300]

i have an 05 210, buddy has an 09. the interior size change is huge. an abundance of more room and better design for storage and what not. you will certainly take a bath selling your x-2. mc did an awesome thing and changed it to the x-1 and dropped the price in 06 so it makes selling it harder, especially with all the boats people got upside down on and HAD to sell. i say do what makes you happy. there are pro's and con's for keeping yours and for buying a new one. with your current boat you aren't quite as crazy about every miniscule detail because it's not brand new. a new one comes with a killer warranty. if you have job security then why not go for it? do you usually have alot of people in your boat? if not then wait til you have some little ones around to take out, but by then you might be spending all your money on them and not get a new one. lots to think about.

[ronskal]

JWAT, good to hear that the wake is good to go from your direct experience. I can relate I think to your comment on the transistion of the wakes. Not as much of a trough to fall into.

Gride, yes I was wondering if the interior size upgrade was worth the price since it is one of the major factors. Eventually a bigger boat is going to happen.

So I'm weird, is the 343 enough engine for this boat? My smaller/lighter X2 has got lots of steam and I figure a bigger heavier boat will feel like a dog. Maybe not but all this stuff goes through your head when you are talking this kind of cash.

Thanks..

[gride300]

if i i had my way i'd take my hull and drop the new interior layout into it. as for the 343, with the right prop it's definitely enough to do anything you want it to do. the new boats drive like a cadillac. it's almost crazy. on the new boats the platform is bigger, there's alot of storage, the reversible seating is amazing, the ballast is pretty cool, and the list goes on. you can get a 210 and it's like having a bigger boat, i mean it is wider, but it's not 23' long. you'd be getting throttle by wire, bigger interior and storage, and a pcm engine. those are the major points i think. you could always just drop a over the top stereo into your x-2. most everyone i know likes the old 210 wake better, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the new one. think of your current wake as soft and wide with a good ramp-the old 210 as hard , not as wide, and rampy. the new 210 is medium hard, medium wide, and has a medium ramp.

[ronskal]

OK gride300 you almost talked me into it. New and improved everything and owning a Nautique is practically on my bucket list.