SANTE 210 2005 wake surfing too close to platform

[HS]

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Try moving that 450# from accross the back seat to under the observers seat if it will fit -- our 370# is 10" high allowing it to fit lengthwise under the bench -- becasue I think Slayer is right about too much weight in the stern.

Once you are loaded up, try just cruising at a few different speeds to see what's up, as Slayer points out a couple of tenths can really make an improvement. You might also try moving your crew around fore and aft on the surf side to see what helps as you test combinations of speed and weight.

I think we have a left-hand prop making the port side cleaner -- unsure about your 210...have you loaded up the stbd side to see it clean up? Wife rides goofy and it on our 211, the stbd side isn't as clean as the port side.

Our wake (surf wave) improved a ton when the add'l ballast was distributed more evenly bow to stern. Factory belly and port full, 350# sac on the port bow seat, 370# sac under the observer's bench (towards the stern) and a 350# sac on the port walk thru. It takes some trial and error to get dialed in.

[intrlaz]

Best wave I have had between my 02 SAN today, Longish pocket, riding 15 minute serious at a time.

Four people in the boat: total weight 550#
1100# Surf sac filled to capacity along my starbord V drive locker
350# sac in the ski locker
In the bow: 650# intergrated under the cushions, with a 750# bag filled in to about 70% cpacity.
About 200# under the surfside gunnel
and the surf wave sac shaped like and L (1150#) behind the driver and extending across the back seat

I HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET MORE WEIGHT SO THE SKY IS THE LIMIT...will somebody show me the perfect SAN 02 WAVE!!!!
I have 1 thousand pound of lead weight available, another 750 sac, amd can pic up some others. MY QUESTON IS HOW MUCH BETTER OF A WAVE WILL I be able to design

Wave looks great man! How does it handle with all that weight in there? Ever feel like its going to tip when other boat wakes come through?

[Dogma]

Wakeslayer,

I am 170 lbs. riding regular on starboard side on CWB beginner board. The only thing I can figure is we must need more weight in bow. It really sucks to drop the rope and be riding, but be so close to platform I can't ride for more than a few seconds without hitting platform or losing the curl.

[WakeSlayer]

Yes, on the more weight in the bow. Or less weight in rear locker. It is more about balance than ballast. You can put 3k lbs in the boat, and if it isn't balanced, it will be no better than no weight.
I think you should try riding toe side on the port side, if by regular, you mean left foot forward. Heel side is considerably harder to get your weight balanced both side to side, and brakes and gas. Your boat will throw a rideable wake without much weight at all. That, and find someone who has surfed a bit, and get them out with you.

On a bigger board, you need to cheat your feet quite a bit towards the edge that is on the wake. On our old LandLock, i have the beginner's toes almost to the edge of the pad. This allows the edge to be driven into the power part of the wake. Secondly, the bigger the board, the lower in the wave it needs to be ridden. Smaller boards are ridden higher, and with less weight cheating. The middle third of the wave has the most power. Get your chest over your toes and arch your back a bit. Speed is determined by pressure on your feet. Back foot = brakes, front foot = gas. It takes a lot more time to speed up than to slow down.
Maybe your weight is too far forward, which would keep you right on the platform.

[ers906]

I have never had the feel like it is going to roll from another boats wake. And even with that much weight I rarely take water over the bow. I slowly let off the throttle when a surfer falls, allowing the boat to slow without taking wave over the stern. Then I reverse the boat to slow momentum without abruptly turning to stbd. Then slowly turn and pick up the surfer. it is not easy to get used to, and having run a rescue boat for several years it goes against every ounce of logic in my body, but that is what it takes I guess to get the right wave. I keep reading where less is more in a SAN concerning wave size but that is not my experience. I may try to empty the V-drive sac a bit and empty the belly sac, but I have had much more luck running several thousand pounds on the surf side and it just gets better when people move to that side as well. Does anyone have any pics of a better wave (Starbord or port?) with a surfer on it?