Not sure what to offer. It has every option. Loaded out trailer w/ 22's. Integrated bow sac, addional 550's in the rear. The kicker is it has over 200 hrs. What's a good starting point? I think he might be asking 80-83.
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A new 2010 230 w/o tower speakers or z5 and with a normal trailer sold recently in my neck of the woods for 85k. You can do the math.
For comparison sake, I've got a solid white 2010 230 TE, with a z5, wetsounds system (485's, xs650's, ws420, XXX 12, 2 syn4's and a syn1), a pimp trailer with 5 rockstar's on it, LED's, etc. My boat has right around 40 hours on it. When I put it up at the end of the season, I'm going to be asking 86k for it with everything on it and probably 83k with the factory stereo. I'm going to be pretty firm on my price to start with, because I've already got people waiting for me to put the boat up for sale. However, if I have to drop the price some, I will.
Hope that helps.2012 Axis A22 - on order
2011 Axis A22 - sold
2010 SANTE 230 - sold
2009 SANTE 230 - sold
2008 SANTE 230 - sold
2007 VLX - sold
2002 XStar - sold
1990 Prostar 190 - sold
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I always thought MOST people averaged 70 per year. That's like 3 years of use. Not that its bad just that the price should reflect it.
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I disagree Venom, I would rather a used boat have 200 hours as long as it is in excellent condition and maintenance was done. It's broken in and did not sit without use. 200hrs is nothing for these boats. Get a good price because off season is coming, but I would laugh if I was the seller and you tried to tell me 200 hrs was a concern.
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Shooter I think your missing the point. I'm not concerned about the 200 hrs. I'm just
simply stating that its a LOT of use for 1 year. Its like finding a 1 year old car with
45,000 miles on it. Would you offer the same amount if you found the same car with
15,000 on it? No, no you wouldn't. I know 200 hrs on a boat is like nothing but when I
make the offer I want the offer to reflect the amount of use that was put on that boat in
that 1 year. I was thinking of offering 73-75k. What do you guys think?
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- 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat
I have only owned my boat since may, and I have gone well over the 250 hr mark on it. as long as the maintenance was done, you should have nothing to worry about. But if the seller ran the full 200 hr and didnt follow the scheduled maintenance, then I would be cautiousEric, Phoenix AZ
G23 550 hp (finally here)
2002 Super Air
1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp
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Hours?
I would think the concern would not be the condition at 200 hrs, but the resale with and extra 150+ hours. I don't think anyone is saying 200 hours means it is about to fail, but it may be 150 hours closer to failure than a boat with 50 hrs. You can say all you want that if it was taken care of it is fine, but a boat with 50 hrs that was taken care of has an extra 150 hours of life in it - in the end, the boa was used more than a lower hour boat - there is no guarantee that the person who uses the boat 200 hrs takes better care than a person who put 50 hrs on it.
When he goes to resell the boat, would you expect to him to get more for it with 450 hrs or 600hrs. My guess is all things equal as a buyer you would pay more for the 450 boat??????
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You have to keep in mind that the owner may have took delivery at the end of July in 09 on the 2010. That would easily explain the hours. I would almost go to say that the fact that he is giving the sacs with the boat and would come down a little bit then it would be a good deal. Don't expect to beat the guy up over those hours. I am in KY and most guys i know that are true riders do 200 hrs or more a year.00 SAN 210 (previous boat)
07 236 te sold
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I think if he is asking 83k and you lowball him 10% you will piss him off. I would think that he should be ready to wiggle to upper 70's but 75 is a stretch. If you want a zero hours boat at a low price wait until winter or try to find a dealer leftover. Given the fact that he may have actualy owned the boat a season and a half and you say the 70 hrs a year then boat should have a 105 or so hours. I do not think 200 hours is a deterent and I do agree it is higher for a 2010 but not that bad. I would say make him the offer you think is fair. No matter what we think you have to be happy with the deal. Worst thing he can say is no. Also consider other used stuff out there. Is his price compairable. Also consider things like color combo and options. If it is the color you want you may not find another one like it.. Good Luck you will love the 23000 SAN 210 (previous boat)
07 236 te sold
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200hrs is in actual fact not alot of hours even considering the boat is only a year old. As a few people have said, this tells you he boat has been functional, in good working condition and was probably used by serious riders (as evidenced by the ballast bags, then again most people have these now.)
Anyway what i'm trying to say is for example we ordered our 2010 230 in December 2009 and took delivery (based in South Africa) in late July 2010. (During winter season).
All in all we have put about 30hrs on it in 2 and half months, we've just started wakeboarding and only go down to the river every second weekend. (The boat's break-in period as defined by PCM is 25 hrs (thats a precaution and not the general standard).
200hrs is only a worry for resale as some people mentioned, if your buying the boat for an extended period then hrs don't really factor but if your looking at changing boats every say 2-5 yrs then look for boats for lower hours or wait for the end of the season.
At the end of the day, you'll have a 4 year warranty if you do buy the boat. All the extra's are nice but take care, go survey the boat properly - take a test drive, look for any interior or exterior damage. Most importantly meet the people who owned the boat, I find owners tell alot about their boats and how they treat them.
Does he say shoes off, not drive the boat like a madman. Watch him dock (does he do so carefully etc.). All ample signs - (though not a given - NO FLAMES!!)
Anyway my long blab session is at an end.
The 230 is an awesome boat, don't jump too quickly take your time (though it may be hard) at the end of the day if your happy that's what counts. Cheers
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