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  • jward
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2008
    • 620

    • Sweet Home Alabama

    • 03 SANTE 04 SANTE

    #1

    Check this out!

    Saw this on WakeWorld. Pretty cool. I am really interested in what this thing will be able to do. Can't wait to see the finished project.


    http://pavatimarine.com/wakeboard_an...ard_boats.html
  • obd666
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2010
    • 793

    • Bostian Heights, NC

    • 03 SANTE

    #2
    is certainly interesting to look at ... they mention it being lighter by a third, but would just have to be weighted down with more ballast?
    2003 SANTE - "OG 210"

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    • SkiTower
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 2172

      • Clayton, NC


      #3
      Originally posted by obd666 View Post
      is certainly interesting to look at ... they mention it being lighter by a third, but would just have to be weighted down with more ballast?
      Might make sense for a ski boat.

      Wonder what the cost will be?
      2007 SV211 SE
      Tow Vehicle 2019 Tundra
      Dealer: www.Whitelake.com

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      • Chexi
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Apr 2025
        • 2119

        • Austin

        • 2000 SAN

        #4
        Hull repairs will be difficult. Do they intend to powdercoat it, or will gelcoat work on Aluminum?
        Now
        2000 SAN

        Previously
        1999 Air Nautique
        1996 Tige Pre-2000
        1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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        • FieldsJackson
          • Feb 2010
          • 3

          • Austin, TX

          • 2001 SAN 2001 Malibu LSV 1997 Air Nautique 2000 Pro Air 1997 SNOB 1990 Ski Nautique 1987 Supra Saltare

          #5
          I will not be buying one.

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          • jward
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Feb 2008
            • 620

            • Sweet Home Alabama

            • 03 SANTE 04 SANTE

            #6
            I agree skitower. I would imagine you could make this thing produce zero wake at all. I can see some pro's and con's with this idea but I would imagine they would have to be considerably lower on cost than other ski/wakebord boats. I like seeing people think outside the box though. Also like the idea of choosing your engine.

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            • ers906
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Feb 2010
              • 921

              • Phoenix AZ

              • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

              #7
              I would imagine hull repairs would be the same as on an outdrive etc. Aluminum welding, sanding etc. Since aluminum welding is a fairly specialized field, I would imagine that expense would be and issue, but so is quality fiberglass repair! I do agree that weighting down for wakeboarding, surfing etc would be even more important, but can definitely see the skiing potential. I definitely will be looking forward to seeing how this turns out in the future
              Eric, Phoenix AZ

              G23 550 hp (finally here)
              2002 Super Air
              1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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              • swancer
                • May 2009
                • 165

                • Vestavia Hills, AL


                #8
                Kinda looks like an X Star front and a 211 rear. . . . Would be great to trailer.
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                2005 SANTE FOR SALE (SOLD)
                1986 SN 2001 (Previous Boat)

                Smith Lake, AL & Lake Mitchell, AL
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                • crkdskier
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 17



                  #9
                  Pavati video

                  http://vimeo.com/6062020
                  They sound like a pretty cool company anyway, i'll watch this development project with interest...

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                  • 74green
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 281

                    • Canyon Lake, Texas

                    • 2001 Air Nautique

                    #10
                    It will be interesting to see the final product and the wake it produces. First boat I really wakeboarded/skied behind was dad’s aluminum duracraft outboard. That aluminum was tough.

                    Cool vid of that company btw.
                    Current: 2001 Air Nautique GT-40

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                    • jroyal
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 342

                      • A, A

                      • 2008 210 Black/White 2001 Super Air Black/White

                      #11
                      I would think by it weighing less, it would take less weight to displace the water and would produce a bigger wake with less weight. I could be wrong though. Interesting idea though.
                      2008 Team Edition 210 - Black
                      2001 Super Air Nautique *Sold*

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                      • Chexi
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2025
                        • 2119

                        • Austin

                        • 2000 SAN

                        #12
                        How good of a wakeboarding wake it will produce will depend on hull shape, and how much weight it takes to get there will depend on what your starting point is (without weight) and how much further you need to sink the boat with weight, but the primary factor is hull shape. This is why a Nautique can produce a big wake without much added ballast, but an X-star requires quite a bit more. Both are made of fiberglass, but they have considerably different hull shapes, and the X-star's shape requires it to be sunk more (and thus more weight) to produce a big wake. This is a bit of an oversimplification, but good enough for the basics.
                        Now
                        2000 SAN

                        Previously
                        1999 Air Nautique
                        1996 Tige Pre-2000
                        1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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                        • Dave210TE
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 45


                          • 2006 super air 210 TE

                          #13
                          looks very live a tige rz2 or rz4.

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                          • Plave
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 21



                            #14
                            Always nice to see something different, would be nice to see more effort into electric/hybrid boats though.

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                            • DanielC
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2669

                              • West Linn OR

                              • 1997 Ski Nautique

                              #15
                              I do not see an electric boat being feasible in the near future. Here is why.
                              Go into your kitchen, and get a measuring cup. Put 8 ounces, or one cup of water in it. Look at that amount of fluid.
                              That amount of gasoline has enough energy to push your average vehicle you use to tow your boat about a mile, at 55 miles an hour, once the vehicle is rolling.
                              Show me the battery of that size (about a cup) that can do the same thing.

                              It is easier to roll a car down the road than it is to push a boat through the water, at any reasonable speed. When a car slows down, the brakes are applied. That is because the car would roll far too long a stop. A hybrid car recaptures this energy, when the brakes are applied, or the car is going down hill.

                              Another way to think about it is to go look at an electric fork lift. Look at the size of the battery in them. Consider how much they are used, and how long they have to be plugged into a charger. It is a standard policy that the fork lift is plugged in overnight, every night, and if it is not being used, it is plugged in during the day. An electric fork lift will rarely go above 5 miles per hour

                              A hybrid car also has the advantage of not really needing a lot of power to roll at moderate speeds. Again, once the car is rolling, it really needs only about 10 to 15 HP to keep it rolling. At moderate speeds, below planing speed, a boat needs a lot of power. Especially if you use it for wake boarding, or wake surfing.
                              To create the big wake, you have to sink the boat into the water. Because you are sinking the boat, it is always trying to climb up out of the hole you are creating, to make the wake, This makes the power demands of the boat high. Look at the energy in the wake left behind your boat. That energy came from somewhere, your gas tank.
                              Last edited by DanielC; 10-11-2010, 06:03 PM.

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