Nautiques & God

[Grant_West]

Ok who here has read the book "Parting the Water's" It came in the owners manuell with your boat. Its the story/history of Correct Craft. With all this seperation of church and state talk, and how religion and business dont really mix. It was weird to read about Correct Craft and how much god plays a role in there company.

[ag4ever]

RE: Nautiques & God

I read the book, and thought it was great that a company would be willing to stand so firm in their beleifs that they would risk loosing everything to keep from bending their faith.

Also, I have had some recent discussions about the "seperation of church and state"

There is no mention of a seperation of church and state in the constitution, bill of rights or other founding state documents. That phrase was adopted from a letter that was written by Ben Franklin, I think, where he was describing the fact that there will be no state sanctioned church. They did though think there should be church in the government, but did not want to be exclusionary or discreminatory about which denomination of christianity it was. There is another instance that is quoted quite often as being an example of not wanting churh and state combined. This was a debate some founding fathers had about wheter there should be a prayer at one of the conventions. At the time they thought only ordaned ministers could communicate with God, so for there to be a prayer there must be a priest. That ment paying for one, and that is what the debate was about. Wether they could afford to pay a priest therfore wether they should have a prayer to start the convention.

In other word, I think it is a very noble thing today to stand tall in your faith and proudly proclaim it. But, I also carefully examine those business that just quote scripture or display ICHTHUS, for are they doing it for business purposes or for reasons of faith?

[FatBoy]

RE: Nautiques & God

ag4ever, I agree with you 100%.

[Air206]

RE: Nautiques & God

Amen Brother! :cheers:

They stand firm but don't force their faith on others. They support ministry without turning people from religion. It is an amazing balancing act I hope to match in my business.......

[redelf75]

RE: Nautiques & God

I'll agree that holding fast to one's believe is honorable, but I for one, find it very offensive to have to read through it year after year in the catalogs and thought the inclusion of the book was WAY over the top.

On the side...I heard CC received a very firm complaint about a religious reference in one of their ads. It was from a Rabbi.

Last, if my purchase of a boat was in the hands of my wife, I'd be in a MC based on this alone. It is a very serious topic and I don't think it can be balanced at all.

The only other company I can think of off hand that mixes religion with business, is Hebrew National. And they did it tongue and cheek.

[skinautique]

RE: Nautiques & God

Malibu has included religion in their brochures as well.

[skinautique]

where did this quote come from?

[Grant_West]

Malibu has included religion in their brochures as well.

Wow thats news to me. Mabey they saw it was working for Nautiques and they thought they would try it out LOL

To each there own, If some one wants to preach there belief's its up to you weather you listen or not, To me I dont care, Im not a church go-er but I dont care if you are. I guess if it was up to me I would rather not have it. If CC didnt have sutch a strong following I wonder if the "Message" would be so out in front, I wonder how many people like Redelf75's wife we so turnd of by this that they went else where?

If you look closley there is Bible scriptures on the food packaging on the IN and Out burger food, The botom of the soda cups have scriptures as well as the fry's. It dosent stop me from chowing down Double Double. LOL, So in that regaurds its not bad

Imagine if there was a Bible passage on each of the 20 warning stickers on every new boat, First Nautiques Chapter :1 "THALL SHALL NOT TEAK SURF"


Ok and while on a tear, Rumor around the camp fire is that CC and there consertiative view's is why you will never see a woman in a Bikini in a CC add. Only One peice suits for lady's, whats up with this? I look threw all my brochures and Yes its true!

I saw a Centurion add with a woman in a thong! I guess that add worked LOL

[skinautique]

I don't have a problem with it being there. It isn't like it is the main focal point of the ads and if God is who they believe got them where they are, let them give credit where credit is due.

It is true that you won't see a CC ad with a girl in a two piece suit. Just their way of doing things!

[AbunDiga909]

Maybe in 1925 they built boats in the Glory of God, but now I think they need to face reality and realise the real reason for building what they do now is for what sells and what the pros say, not so God can have fun on the water.

However I have noticed that in the '05 catalog the only religious thing in there was a quote from the Hebrews. This was the first year they did not say in the opening sentence how the company was started in 1925 through faith for God and what not. I have seen a slight change over the years and nonetheless, I just think its pointless on their part.

[McQ211]

Wow, I'm amazed at some of the responses. Since the company is not publicly held I suppose the Meloon family can build boats for whatever reason they see fit (that's reality). The reason that I bought a Correct Craft was because of the quality of construction and the warranty offered by the company. One of the reasons that the quality is so high is that the company has a set of standards that they try to consistently apply. I personally hope the standards are maintained to protect the resale value of my purchase - whatever the ideology.

As far as promotional material is concerned, the book will tell you that the standard applied by Correct Craft is that a copy could be left in a pew on Sunday and not offend anyone that might read it. For a family oriented company, sounds like a good standard to me.

[Socbum]

At last years reunion I met with the older Meloon. We chatted about how boating is part of my family and how it brings us together, he shared with me some of the same stories about his family along with a little history of Correct Craft.

At the end of the conversation he handed me his personal brochure on life and beliefs. At first glance I thought it was another CC brochure, boy was I pleasantly mistaken! I keep that brochure on my desk (which is now in several boxes as we relocate my office) as reminder of why I do things. I respect his choice and how he lives. He has truly found a way to balance his work, family and life.

Redelf -- I respect your opinions and your choice to voice how you feel. I disagree with your statement that you made about having to read through it year after year. You are not required to read anything that is produced by CC, you made that choice. That is one of the basic tenets of being a US citizen. Freedom of choice.

[AbunDiga909]

I support Correct Craft having a strong reason behind the making of their boats that they stand behind. But maybe the whole topic of religion is something that should be left out of the books and something that should just be talked with the dealer maybe or prefferably (sp?) events where you can talk one-on-one with a Meloon.

Its not like the whole idea of religion being in the catalog would really affect the sales or decision of a boat.

[skinautique]

Abundiga,
If it isn't going to affect sales, then what is the problem with them including it?

[AbunDiga909]

Abundiga,
If it isn't going to affect sales, then what is the problem with them including it?

First off, I meant affect sales in the positive way for them, but that is besides the point...

Its not that there is a problem with them including it--theres not--they can do whatever they want. Its just it seems a little pointless and that it would be better to get the point across to the customer if it was through the dealer and/or a Meloon alone w/o the "help" of the catalog.