Stay Away from River City Boat Sales in Wilsonville Oregegon.

[RCBS]

As always there's two sides to every story and this one is no exception...

The seller came by to check us out and talk about the boat and let us know about some issues with it that he wanted repaired before the inspection. Issues included a rudder problem, broken hinges in the ski locker that required fiberglass work, missing hot water system parts, and tower speakers that were not wired and missing an amp. Our bid to fix the items exceeded what he wanted to spend and at that time he told us he did not want to deal with the headaches of the issues or lower his price anymore to the buyer he has lined up.

It was then he asked if we would have any interest in the boat. We agreed to purchase the boat (for apparently more then the original buyer, which at the time was unknown to us) and started the paperwork only to find out there was a lien on the boat and a partner in the boat as well. This equals a lot more paperwork on our end and potential problems for a private party seller and buyer with regards to title delays and proper releases. All of these factors coupled with the issues with the boat made it a no brainer for him and his partner to sell the boat to us as an easy outlet.

While we feel bad for the original buyer it is the seller that ultimately made the decision about who to sell the boat to. I want to be clear in that at no time did we solicit the seller to sell the boat to us. He offered it to us at his sole discretion in order get out of his partnership and the boat.

I regret that this is my first post on PlanetNautique but I would like to thank the member that emailed me so we could share out side of the story.

[DaveP]

This would imply that the original buyer DID NOT hire you to inspect the boat. Is this true? If so, I see no problem. If, on the other hand, the buyer did hire you to inspect the boat, he, not the seller was your customer. If this is indeed the situation, you bought the boat out from under "your" customer.

[RCBS]

This would imply that the original buyer DID NOT hire you to inspect the boat. Is this true? If so, I see no problem. If, on the other hand, the buyer did hire you to inspect the boat, he, not the seller was your customer. If this is indeed the situation, you bought the boat out from under "your" customer.

We were asked to do a prepurchase inspection but never got to that point. The seller disclosed his issues before allowing the inspection to take place- thus no inspection was done under contract.

[swc5150]

But you knew the boat was coming for inspection by customer request? With that, you denied the original buyer a first right of refusal. That, in my opinion, is poor business.

[RCBS]

But you knew the boat was coming for inspection by customer request? With that, you denied the original buyer a first right of refusal. That, in my opinion, is poor business.

That was the seller's job to offer a first right of refusal. The seller stated to us that he no longer wanted to sell it to the previous buyer and was looking for the easy way out because of the issues with the boat.

[gride]

I'd have to say the inspection dealer should have inspected it and made money there, then told would be buyer what's wrong and that seller doesn't want to put money in it. That's what the inspection was for.

[NautiDave07]

I don't think you are gonna win on here. If that was the case you should have contacted the guy that was hiring you to do the pre purchase inspection and let him know his seller was flaking. I am just glad that you had the business sense to make an offer yourself and save the seller. Classy. In my opinion you and the seller had a duty to contact the buyer. And then to do some repairs and offer to your ORIGANAL customer at a 10K markup. How noble of you. At that price that 211 will probably be with you a while.

[RCBS]

I don't think you are gonna win on here.

You're right, but that's not what I'm trying to do. I just wanted to share our side of the events.

[ksdaoski27]

Can't blame the RCBS in this one. 100% on the seller I would say-

[swc5150]

I believe you could've won here, if the evidence warranted. It simply appears your side doesn't hold water. Also, if you did offer the boat to the orignal buyer at a $10k premium, that's flat out shady - not to mention redicilous.

[DaveP]

We were asked to do a prepurchase inspection but never got to that point. The seller disclosed his issues before allowing the inspection to take place- thus no inspection was done under contract.

Sorry. You knew full well why that boat was there. The seller didn't magically show up at your door.

[DaveP]

You're right, but that's not what I'm trying to do. I just wanted to share our side of the events.

The point is that the buyer, who hired you, had first right of refusal. Had you told him the boat was a POS, he could have walked or made up his own mind whether it was worth his effort to proceed. He never had that opportunity because you stepped in. Had you not offered to buy the boat, it is very likely the seller would have proceeded with the sale. The fact that you then turned around and offered to sell it to him as a substantial markup over the price he negotiated was just wrong.

[SNMike]

You're right, but that's not what I'm trying to do. I just wanted to share our side of the events.

Then why change your FB page 4 times, and delete posts'. If you had nothing to hide, and stood on solid ethical ground, you would've earned more respect and maybe, just maybe retained the original buyer to find another boat for him.

Instead, when you're name is mentioned, certain people in the know will light you up.
1KHP............consider yourself blessed it didn't work out mi amigo. Probably had more wrong with it than was disclosed.

Mike

[RCBS]

The fact that you then turned around and offered to sell it to him as a substantial markup over the price he negotiated was just wrong.

This is more than a little off the mark. The customer asked me about the boat and what was going to happen with it and I simply told him the truth as opposed to lying to him. I didn't antagonize him or chase him down to offer him the boat...

I've seen enough of these types of threads go down over the years so I am going to leave this thread where it is. Too many times I've seen dealers/manufacturers/etc get flamed to no end no matter how hard they try to explain their side of the story.

I've explained my side of the events and done my best to show the other side. I appreciate the feedback and we will use this a learning experience for the future.

Please feel free to call us if you feel the need to discuss this further. 503-797-2222

[jmo]

1KHP - in the end I think it's good the deal fell through given the boat has issues the seller didn't disclose until he knew it was going to be checked, I wouldn't buy that boat since the owner clearly didn't take care of it as evidenced by what was wrong with it, plus who knows what else might be wrong with it.

Good luck with your search...

JMO