The ZR-6 engine is a $3984 upgrade over the Excalibur. I would like to hear experiences you have had with each engine, and whether you consider the Excalibur sufficient for all but the most intense requirements. Is the ZR-6 worth the upgrade?
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RE: ZR-6
What everybody is going to say is that the Excalubur 330 is more than enough and will give you all the power you could possibly want from a Nautique whether it is out-of-the-hole or top end and the ZR6 isn't worth the upgrade, and they're all right! The ZR6 is only for those who just want the biggest baddest engine out there for the sake of it. No substantial power increase is noticable, just a few minor ones. If price matters to you and you don't need the biggest baddest motor in a Nautique, go with the Excalibur, you won't be dissapointed.
But if you are considering a 226 or putting like 1,000+ lbs. in a 210 or 211, you may want to lean more towards the ZR6.
If you are considering an '03 or a little older Nautique, take a look at the Python if you really want power. That will really empty your wallet but you will sure as **** notice a difference with that dinosaur in your boat![color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]
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RE: ZR-6
Here is a good thread that covers that question:
http://www.planetnautique.com/index....&highlight=zr6
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- Mar 2002
- 16483
- Lake Norman
- Mooresville, NC
- 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique
RE: ZR-6
BlackHawk,
You don't mention in your post what boat you're considering. I have the Excalibur in my 2003 SAN, and my next boat will have the ZR-6. The Excalibur is a fine engine, and, with the
correct propeller, has great power. That being said, when I run full ballast with more than a couple people aboard, I find the engine to be slightly underpowered. I decided last summer that I would not buy another SAN with the Excalibur. It would be fine for most people, but I am extremely picky when it comes to my boat.
I have been in Greg Meloon's 226, and it had the ZR-6 engine. Even in that large of a boat, the ZR-6 did extremely well. I was very impressed with the engine. I also know of several people on this site who have the ZR-6, and I have heard nothing but praise from them. They include a 206 owner, a Super Air owner, and a 216 owner. From their past comments, I doubt any of them would switch back to the Excalibur.
Now, if you really want some power, skip the ZR-6 and the Python and step up to the SUPERCHARGED engine that CC was considering for a little while. They never made it to production though...
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A d m i n i s t r a t o r
- Mar 2002
- 16483
- Lake Norman
- Mooresville, NC
- 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique
They never officially released the specs. Let me do a little digging and see what I can come up with.I own and operate Silver Cove Marine, which is an inboard boat restoration, service, and sales facility located in Mooresville, North Carolina. We specializes in Nautiques and Correct Crafts, and also provide general service for Nautiques fifteen years old and older.
If we can be of service to you, please contact us anytime!
Current Boats —> 2025 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2001 Ski Nautique -- 2000 Nautique Super Sport PYTHON -- 2000 Nautique Super Sport -- 1999 Ski Nautique PYTHON-- 1985 Sea Nautique 2700 (Twin-Engine, 1 of 13) -- 1981 Fish Nautique (Twin-Engine, 1 of 4) -- 1980 Fish Nautique (Twin-Engine, 1 of 4)
Former Boats —> 2024 Super Air Nautique G23 PARAGON -- 2023 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2022 Super Air Nautique G23 PARAGON -- 2021 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2021 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2020 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2019 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2018 Super Air Nautique G23-- 2018 SAN 210 TE -- 2017 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2016 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2015 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2014 Super Air Nautique G23 -- 2014 Super Air Nautique 230 Team Edition — 2013 Super Air Nautique G23 — 2012 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition — 2011 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition — 2010 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition — 2008 Super Air Nautique 230 Team Edition — 2007 Air Nautique 236 Team Edition -- 2007 Air Nautique SV-211 -- 2005 SV-211 -- 2003 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition -- 2003 Air Nautique 226 -- 2003 Sport Nautique 216 -- 2003 Ski Nautique 196 -- 2003 Ski Nautique 196-- 2002 Ski Nautique -- 2001 Sport Nautique -- 2001 Ski Nautique -- 2000 Sport Nautique -- 1999 Ski Nautique Open Bow -- 1999 Air Tique 176 -- 1998 Ski Nautique -- 1998 Ski Nautique -- 1998 Ski Nautique -- 1997 Ski Nautique -- 1997 Ski Nautique -- 1996 Ski Nautique Open Bow -- 1994 Ski Nautique -- 1993 Barefoot Nautique -- 1983 Fish Nautique (TWIN ENGINE, 1 of 4) -- 1981 Fish Nautique (SINGLE ENGINE)
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Blackhawk
I have owned 2 nautiques with the excallibur, and so far one with the
zr-6.
My first excalibur was in an 02 ski nautique, that seemed fine plenty of hole shot, smooth and reliable.
My next excalibur was an 03 226 ltd, engine was still smooth and reliable.
My latest boat is an 04 226 ltd with tanks and tower, this one is fitted with the ZR6, loads of power ultra smooth, even quieter than my excaliburs and never seems to run out of steam, I lent the boat to my dealer to pull a wakeboard comp and even with about 10 people in the boat and extra ballast the boat just leapt up onto the plane with no effort at all.
Basically what I am trying to say is GET THE ZR-6
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Basically what I am trying to say is GET THE ZR-6
1) I will be using the boat in salt water regularly. If I went with the Excaibur I would of shelled out another grand for the closed water cooling. So, my logic is if I'm going to spend $1K more for closed water cooling why not spend $3 to $4K more and get the bigger motor with standard closed water cooling? (not great logic but neither is #2)
2) My old boat was a jet with a huge 454 in it that screamed out of the hole and had 60 MPH top end. I switched for obvious reasons but I still crave the power and the ZR6 will help with the withdrawls. This may sound bad but how often do us boaters ever buy "less" when shopping for something new? I bet few of us have ever replaced our primary vechicle with a new vechicle that has less power.....
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I demo'd a 226 with the 330hp Excalibur, with 3 adults and towing a skier. Empty Ballast. I felt, with the weight, it was sluggish off the hole. The sales rep mentioned that he felt the same. With that size of boat and weight, the ZR6 is the way to go IMHO.
My suggestion to you is to demo the boat you want with the motor you had in mind. Try to replicate the weight and intent of use during this demo so you will know if indeed a ZR6 is needed. If its for wakeboarding, make sure you load up the boat and get a feel for it.
This is what I did because, like you, I wasnt sure if the ZR6 was necessary.
My 226 Team is coming in March and it will be fitted with a ZR6.
Not that it matters, but just an FYI, the ZR6 motor is the same as the H2 Hummer motor, except its the Marinized version.
Good Luck in your decision Making !Boat - 2005 Team 226 -ZR6 - Several Acme Prop's (1234, 644, 1160) Depending on occassion
Tow Rig - 2008 Chevy Silverado - Duramax Diesel - Crew Cab
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- Mar 2004
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- Smith Mountain Lake, VA
- Former: 1992 Nautique Excel - First Love Former: 1978 Ski Tique - Classic Beauty Current: 2004 Air 206 ZR6-Powered - Amazing! Current: 1991 Barefoot Nautique - 454 Power!
I have the ZR6 in a 206 - We love it. It is the "next generation" engine, lighter-weight than similar HP powerplants, runs 87 and gives great power. The semi-closed cooling system makes winterization a snap! We run it all winter in VA (where it freezes)... use the heater a ton .... no winterization concerns - drain a fitting and empty raw water bowl - that's it. It is a great "convenience engine".
We had a "vanilla" 245-265 HP 351 in our old CC. It gave us plenty of power - for what we were used to. (What are you used to? - What do you need?) Engines always get bigger and badder. I think the ZR6 will give me a resale advantage in 10 years and A TON OF FUN until then. There are folks on this site that spend $4,000.00 on their stereo or otherwise pimping their ride - I spent it on the engine. Get what you want - It's the best ride out there!! Yellow_Flash_Colorz:2004 Air 206 Limited, Midnight Blue & Titanium, Silver Accents, FCT, Vortec ZR6, Perfect Pass - Dream Nautique!!
1991 Barefoot Nautique, Fire Red & Black, PCM 454 - Power and Comfort!
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