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Good answer. Makes a lot of sense to me. Is it worth going all one in one direction or try to get the best of both worlds and make the ultimate compromise? (rhetorical) I guess thats what my family and all other 211 and 216 owners did--you wen't all out.
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might be too early to tell.
there is a lot of 210 owners who have years of experience with tweaking the wake (ballast/bags/lead etc...)
not to many people have done that with a 211... there was one national last year where a 226 was used.
i know the 211 wake is good. the question is how good when weighed down properly ? ( will be going out soon with factory ballast, lead, 2 rear bags, and a belly bag and experiment from there)...
no one really knows because the boat is new... i would venture the guess, it will be just as good but maybe different than what people are used to ( i could be completly wrong on this)
my dealer has indicated 211 might be the way of the future for wakeboarding boats from nautique - it is a pretty bold move on nautiques part when you really think about it- there is never been a really successful crossover boat.. i suspect the hull, hydrogate, and adding more ballast has a lot more engineering involved than we currently know .
like anything time will tell..Comment
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If there ever were, it would be the only boat on the market...Originally posted by clubmyke
& would answer all those questions on WW.com and WB.com on which is the best boat with the best wake...
A successful crossover boat is only determined by the owner/buyer of the boat. A crossover can only get so good, otherwise it wouldn't be a crossover. Does that make sense at all, or am I just way over-tired?[color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]Comment
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i can see where your point of view and i do agree with you....that is acceptance by a individual (micro view).
HOWEVER.. if the 211 developed a reputation( macro view)as a world wakeboarding wake and a world class pull for a skier- now you have something...aa truly world class crossover boat ( something that has yet been proven in the market )
btw, i am defining " macro view" as general public knowledge (ie. the 210 has a world class wake, nobody will argue that.. some people may not like it (may prefer mc or bu)..but regardless it is still a great wake and nobody can ever, ever take that away from the 210.
now wether the 211 does "the best" of both worlds" is yet to be seen...it is too early to tell ( that is my opinion.... so please take it with a grain of salt)... i am stoked with where the wake is right now and the performance of the boat
btw, we were out today and it was pretty blown out...so we just played with the factory ballast and 520 lbs of lead bags (13 bags-4 front, 4 each side rear, and one in the cabin). and left the external ballast bags alone.
the wake was freakin awesome despite the so-so conditions..no body wanted to even to add the ballast bags..
to say i am stoked is a mild understatement !!!! all we added was 13 bags of lead (520 lbs)..that is nothing compared to what the others guys run:
(that is what these other boat owners/riders are use)
2000 extra ballast in x-star
2000 extra ballast in a supra
2000 extra ballast in a x-2
2000 lbs extra ballast in a bu vlx
other comments were - more ballast would make the wake thicker(not bigger) but it would take long to plane and use less gas, and wear/tear..(we still had a ton of holeshot and planed very quickly ).. and the pop off the wake was awesome
the verdict was leave it alone and maybe try 2-4 more to try in the ski locker just for giggles..Comment
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I think I'm probably one of the only one who doesn't add aftermarket ballast. I'm not big on all the extra stuff in the boat. I see a bunch of people putting 1000-2000 lbs. of ballast into their boats, a lot 2001s, and then a bunch of people. Does anyone think that there is a reason for the U.S.C.G weight limit and that you shouldn't go over it by 1500 or so lbs. Yellow_Flash_Colorz: I never really thought of it until recently when I saw some boats when the freeboard was half as high as it should be.[color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]Comment
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yeah...a lot depends on how many people you go out with...
adding the lead compensated for the lack of bodies makes sense to me(there was 4 of us and 2 guys were only 160 lbs - so we were pretty darn close to the weight limit)..
it would appear the riding height is a MAJOR difference between the 210 and the 211... the 211 is a little wider..the 210 is a little longer..the 210 has a lower side height when compared to the 211 in the water
for me a extra 520 lbs is not that big a price to pay for a great wake (it beats 2000 lbs any day of the week).. the only disadvantage is the moving of the lead sacs in and out of the boat...
btw, the best wake i have ever ridden was on jeff frews 210 with 2000 lbs of extra ballast (bags and lead)...not only was it big.. it was so darn clean.. it made riding actually easier..Comment
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