How to get 42mph out of a SN 200?

[Skithreelakes]

Looking at buying a 2010 SN 200 with standard 343 engine. Has anyone out there had success changing the prop pitch to get 42mph out of that engine for barefooting? If so, what did you use?

Love the boat, but need to get a solid 42mph with 2 people in the boat for one foots and toe holds.

Thanks

[case sensitive]

Doesn't the 200 hit about 50 with the 330? I know I've hit 50 with a 2003 196 with the 5.0. Should be easy with the 343. Heck, even my deck boat with a 120hp can hit 45.

[swc5150]

Jody or Shane are great resources for 200 props. In case they don't see this thread, you could pm team seal (Jody) or 2gofaster. I'm surprised you're not hitting 42 as is? Are you at a relatively high elevation?

[rpcs]

I don't see it happening. My 2010 has only hit 42 during the first weekend I placed it in the water. Now I'm only seeing about 38. Nothing to brag about. I would like to see forties also but my boat ain't doing it!

[Skithreelakes]

We're in Wisconsin. We've test driven two, each only hitting 40mph. When we spoke with our local dealer, he confirmed that this is typical on the 200's. The dealer of course recommended the upgrade to the next motor up, however, we need to buy used and that upgrade is extremely rare. Don't have the budget for a 2012 with this $4,000 upgrade so we are looking for other options like changing prop pitch etc.

So sad that Correct Craft couldn't get the boat up to the typical 45mph to include the discipline of barefooting. They are so close. I will check with the members listed above as you suggest. Anyone else with ideas, I'm all ears.....really would like to find way to trade our '99 for a 2010!

[skiinxs]

We're in Wisconsin. We've test driven two, each only hitting 40mph. When we spoke with our local dealer, he confirmed that this is typical on the 200's. The dealer of course recommended the upgrade to the next motor up, however, we need to buy used and that upgrade is extremely rare. Don't have the budget for a 2012 with this $4,000 upgrade so we are looking for other options like changing prop pitch etc.

So sad that Correct Craft couldn't get the boat up to the typical 45mph to include the discipline of barefooting. They are so close. I will check with the members listed above as you suggest. Anyone else with ideas, I'm all ears.....really would like to find way to trade our '99 for a 2010!

With the gate up, my 2010 200 would run 42.6 after I switched to royal purple synthetic oil (that was worth 0.6 mph). If the boats you are running have the 12.5X14.25 prop, they are probably hitting the rev limiter. The 12.5X15 should get you over 42 once they are broken in. If your boat is only running 38, there is something wrong with it. What rpm's is that at? Here comes the shameless plug. My 2011 6-Liter promo 200 will be available in a couple of weeks, it easily runs 47. I am not too far away in St. Louis if you want to come down and take a test run/ski/foot. http://www.printroom.com/ViewGallery...ery_id=2512908

[TRBenj]

Doesn't the 200 hit about 50 with the 330?

Nope.

I know I've hit 50 with a 2003 196 with the 5.0.

No you havent. Get a GPS on there and be prepared for disappointment. The TSC2 196 with the Excal was only good for 45-46... no way youre going faster with the 5.0L. Heck, the TSC2 with the 6.0L is good for about 49mph. The paddlewheel based PP reads a good 3-4mph fast above slalom speeds, FYI.

Should be easy with the 343.

Nope!

Great point above about the rev limiter... you most likely would not notice that youre hitting it. PCM dials back the throttle to keep the revs in check- very slick! A 470 or 1442 may be the props to try on an Excal 200.

[case sensitive]

Nope.


No you havent. Get a GPS on there and be prepared for disappointment. The TSC2 196 with the Excal was only good for 45-46... no way youre going faster with the 5.0L. Heck, the TSC2 with the 6.0L is good for about 49mph. The paddlewheel based PP reads a good 3-4mph fast above slalom speeds, FYI.


Nope!

Great point above about the rev limiter... you most likely would not notice that youre hitting it. PCM dials back the throttle to keep the revs in check- very slick! A 470 or 1442 may be the props to try on an Excal 200.

Bummer. So the speedo's are that far off then? dang.

[Mikeski]

Try putting a 500lb fatsac on the platform. The problem is that these boats try to bury the nose the faster you go, the weight in the back helps as long as it doesn't start to porpoise.

[TRBenj]

Above skiing speeds, yes- Ive noticed that both the digital speedos and PP are off (sometimes in opposite directions). A hand held GPS is the most reliable way to measure top speed.

Weight in the back definitely helps most direct drives- even beyond when they start porpoising. That porpoising probably wouldnt be great for the barefoot wake, though. Then again, Ive found certain hulls run so planted, that even extensive weight in the back wont speed them up more than 1mph or so.

[teamseal]

Your 200 should already run in the 42-44 MPH range stock from the factory. If it is not then you need to check out the problem. My 2011 6 liter will run 50 mph with a OJ on it and 48.5 with the stock 654 ACME. The reading is from the Zero Off GPS unit. I do not have to put weight in the rear and it will run this with 2 persons in the boat.
Every one of the 6 liter 196's that I have had all went over 50 mph. The 07 was the fastest running 54 and some change the 08 and 09 would run 53.5 all day long All with a stock 668 ACME.
There is starting to be a good following of skiers and owners that are moving over to the OJ products for their 200's and 196's. The props are capitalizing on what the newer engines will deliver with out excess slip and running high RPM's. The cleaver type design of the ACME's are good all around wheel with great consistancy, However We are finding that with the OJ's the Zoom factor that ZO can deliver is greatly reduced and top speeds with the props are higher with less Max RPM. For those of us running the OJ on our boats we are finding it a good fit on the 200's especially those with the 6 liter motors.
Please do not put 500lbs on the platform, not what the platform was designed for and may cause a safety issue. Bad Advise!

[j2nh]

You are getting some special boats Teamseal! My experience is limited to two 200's with the 343's and both topped out at around 40, new boats with stock prop.

To the original poster I don't think you will be happy with a 200 with the 343 for the barefooting you describe regardless of the prop. You want the ability to adjust speed when a footer decides to do a 1 foot, toehold, etc and that isn't going to happen without horsepower, especially with a large surface area hull like the 200.

My 196/409 tops out at about 50 which is irrelevant, what is relevant is the ability to adjust speed for barefooting on the fly. My humble opinion is that the 200 should have come stock with the 409.

[actman]

My 200 last year ran 42 and this years 200 runs close to 41. I changed the oil and im using royal purple synthetic oil.
I would think you can change the prop and get a couple out of it but you would loose your bottom end.

[teamseal]

Nothing special about any of the Nautiques I have had. Good motor alignment, A clean bottom and good gas these boats will perform like no others. Synthetic oil seems to free up some performance. being a skier I also dont load down my boats with excess equipment that I wont need or use. Extra stereo equipment and towers dont fit in my world and I prefer closed bow boats, by no means are they stripped down but I do pull the aft seat componetry out of the boat.
The 6 liter package IMO is the best way to go with the 200, with the 6 liter it is the very best 3 event boat in the world today!
!

[81nautique]

good gas these boats will perform like no others.
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Jody, do today's computerized engines adjust for higher octane the same way they adjust for lower grade of fuel? Will you see better performance with 93 over 89 octane or is that a waste of money. What do you run in your boats? I ask because a few years ago at a ski school they were dumping octane booster in the jump boat supposedly trying to get the computer to reset. They had been running low octane pump gas and the jumpers were complaining about the pull. Is that fiction or would it recognize the better fuel and compensate?