Will a Sport 200v Removable Pylon Support a Boom?

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  • corgiman
    • Nov 2011
    • 2

    • Durham, NC

    • '77 Mustang '87 Ski '97 Sport '04 Sport

    #1

    Will a Sport 200v Removable Pylon Support a Boom?

    I have heard the concern is not lateral forces since that would be equivalent to pulling a skier but the vertical torque that could actually pull the pylon from its base. You do have to rotate the pylon to remove it so it is hard to image it could rotate while the boom is connected. Have any CC engineers looked into this? Or who manufactures the removable pylon for CC? they might know.
  • SkiTower
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 2172

    • Clayton, NC


    #2
    have they made tower mounted booms for the new towers? If so, that would be the way to go.
    2007 SV211 SE
    Tow Vehicle 2019 Tundra
    Dealer: www.Whitelake.com

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    • 81nautique
      • Feb 2006
      • 257

      • Big Rock, Illinois

      • 2012 200 Sport 1956 Correct Craft Collegian Past boats 1955 Correct Craft Hurricane 81 Anniversary Nautique 1960 GlassCraft Ski Nautique #1

      #3
      You have to push down and then a slight twist. I don't think you'll get CC to say it's ok to mount a boom as they already say not to in the owners manual I'm sure simply to avoid liability. Hard to imagine you could get the downward force and the twist needed to unlock it as long as your cables are taught but I'm still not sure I would put one on our boat.

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      • sodbuster88
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Nov 2008
        • 368

        • Clayton, NC


        #4
        Originally posted by 81nautique View Post
        You have to push down and then a slight twist. I don't think you'll get CC to say it's ok to mount a boom as they already say not to in the owners manual I'm sure simply to avoid liability. Hard to imagine you could get the downward force and the twist needed to unlock it as long as your cables are taught but I'm still not sure I would put one on our boat.
        Agree...I would not put a boom on mine. There is just too much available tolerance that the x-y-z movement on a boom might cause damage.
        Peace..

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        • sodbuster88
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Nov 2008
          • 368

          • Clayton, NC


          #5
          I would like to know the specs (pull capacity in #) for the three tow points on the 200V (FCT3, removable pylon and rear lift ring). Anyone know this information or where it might be published? Also, what is the spec on the permanent pylon for the DD (196 or 200)....compared to the removable???
          Peace..

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          • NautiqueOasis
            • Oct 2005
            • 142

            • Dayton, OH

            • '13 200V Sport; '05 SV211; '97, '90 , '85 & '79 Sk

            #6
            I would also contact Barefoot International (800-932-0685) and see if they would recommend a boom for the 200v; they have always been very helpful in the past
            '13 200V Sport Nautique
            '05 SV211 Nautique
            '97 Ski Nautique
            '90 Ski Nautique
            '85 Ski Nautique
            '79 Ski Nautique

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            • DLarva
              • Jan 2012
              • 28

              • Minneapolis

              • 2012 200 Sport Nautique

              #7
              I've got a boom on mine. That being said, I just got the boat (2012 Sport 200) and haven't used it yet.

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              • DLarva
                • Jan 2012
                • 28

                • Minneapolis

                • 2012 200 Sport Nautique

                #8
                Originally posted by 81nautique View Post
                You have to push down and then a slight twist. I don't think you'll get CC to say it's ok to mount a boom as they already say not to in the owners manual I'm sure simply to avoid liability. Hard to imagine you could get the downward force and the twist needed to unlock it as long as your cables are taught but I'm still not sure I would put one on our boat.
                I can't imagine this happening. Besides the cables attached to it, you have the tower itself, which it presses against, preventing it from moving backwards and twisting the pylon. If you could apply forward pressure, and you had the boom on the right side of the boat, perhaps it could twist. But how would you ever put more forward pressure on it than backwards pressure. I think it should be pretty safe.

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                • 81nautique
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 257

                  • Big Rock, Illinois

                  • 2012 200 Sport 1956 Correct Craft Collegian Past boats 1955 Correct Craft Hurricane 81 Anniversary Nautique 1960 GlassCraft Ski Nautique #1

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DLarva View Post
                  I can't imagine this happening. Besides the cables attached to it, you have the tower itself, which it presses against, preventing it from moving backwards and twisting the pylon. If you could apply forward pressure, and you had the boom on the right side of the boat, perhaps it could twist. But how would you ever put more forward pressure on it than backwards pressure. I think it should be pretty safe.
                  Have you ever had a footer fall and not let go right away? The boom can spring forward and bounce up and down quite a bit. Not saying it could be enough to disengage the pylon but not sure it's impossible either. You'll just have to let us know how yours works ok.

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                  • AirTool
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4049

                    • Katy, Texas


                    #10
                    Originally posted by 81nautique View Post
                    Have you ever had a footer fall and not let go right away? The boom can spring forward and bounce up and down quite a bit. Not saying it could be enough to disengage the pylon but not sure it's impossible either. You'll just have to let us know how yours works ok.
                    Exactly. When I have big boys on mine, I loosely tie a rope around it and to the tower behind so it doesn't shoot forward. I've heard of people having their windshields broken.

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                    • DLarva
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 28

                      • Minneapolis

                      • 2012 200 Sport Nautique

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 81nautique View Post
                      Have you ever had a footer fall and not let go right away? The boom can spring forward and bounce up and down quite a bit. Not saying it could be enough to disengage the pylon but not sure it's impossible either. You'll just have to let us know how yours works ok.
                      So you guys are saying that when the footer falls and hangs on, the boom bends, then they get pulled off, and then the boom springs forward and potentially with enough force to swing around and hit the windshield?

                      It would also have to snap the rope attached to the rear cleat.

                      If it is on the port side it would also have to break whatever system prevents the pylon from turning the wrong direction and/or the attachment to the pylon. If it is on the starboard side it would have to break whatever prevents it from twisting unless it is first pressed down on and/or the attachment to the pylon.

                      I suppose this is all possible.

                      Hopefully the odds are about as low as the odds of hitting something while skiing or the rope snapping and shooting into the boat injuring someone, etc.

                      I'll certainly try and test this out at slower speeds first though and report back if the results are troublesome.

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                      • mpc
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 54

                        • West Vancouver, BC


                        #12
                        Originally posted by DLarva View Post
                        So you guys are saying that when the footer falls and hangs on, the boom bends, then they get pulled off, and then the boom springs forward and potentially with enough force to swing around and hit the windshield?

                        It would also have to snap the rope attached to the rear cleat.

                        If it is on the port side it would also have to break whatever system prevents the pylon from turning the wrong direction and/or the attachment to the pylon. If it is on the starboard side it would have to break whatever prevents it from twisting unless it is first pressed down on and/or the attachment to the pylon.

                        I suppose this is all possible.

                        Hopefully the odds are about as low as the odds of hitting something while skiing or the rope snapping and shooting into the boat injuring someone, etc.

                        I'll certainly try and test this out at slower speeds first though and report back if the results are troublesome.
                        Have you had a chance to use the boom on your Sport 200? What have you experienced so far. Thank you

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                        • BrennanK
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 348

                          • Hopkins, MN

                          • 1997 Ski Nautique

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sodbuster88 View Post
                          Also, what is the spec on the permanent pylon for the DD (196 or 200)....compared to the removable???
                          I would also be interested in this. I know I have dragged up 7 adults from a deep water start all on the pylon. It was flexing a little, but I am not overly concerned. I have always kinda thought that the pylon could take whatever the boat could dish out. It would be nice to know the real hard numbers though. Especially for the removable pylon on the 200V.
                          1997 Ski Nautique

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                          • tusker
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 10

                            • toronto

                            • None

                            #14
                            Have you trie the boom yet?

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                            • Quinner
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 2246

                              • Unknown

                              • Correct Crafts

                              #15
                              10+ adults on trick skis will bend the pylon on a high HP 83' Ski Nautique, lol, thats a fact.

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