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  • core-rider
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Feb 2004
    • 1350

    • Huntsville, AL

    • 2003 Black SANTE

    #31
    Not to be nit-picking the boat you just bought, and I'm sure you got it at a good price, but to me there is some poor gelcoat repair in the 2 circled areas... or they are just weird shadows. Did the listing detail possible problems like this?
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    Jason
    All black 2003 SANTE
    -- Southern Fried --

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    • AirTool
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 4049

      • Katy, Texas


      #32
      Originally posted by bradfrd View Post
      air tool, the boat is in fort worth tx. you gentlemen seem to know what you are talking about.
      PN members have been known to know what they are talking about. Many say they are not as dumb as they look.

      Here is the ownership information of the boat. On the trailer, they are licensed in the county. If you could get the license plate number, the license information could be looked up to see if a VIN is listed. I'm not going to elaborate more at this point because there are many good ideas already posted on this thread that you can pursue. The bottom line is that you can get this trailer if you want it.

      One thought, though. Like in my case, I titled my trailer and it is not in my boat loan. So I own it. If (by some rare chance) that is the case with this boat. Then the previous boat owner still owns the trailer. Legally, that might actually be the case even if it isn't titled. I suspect, though, that if the bank didn't believe they owned the trailer, they would be giving it back to the previous owner after the boat is sold.

      Note the discussion of "Pro Air" can be dropped. It was a tangent.
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      Last edited by AirTool; 06-12-2012, 11:58 AM.

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      • bradfrd
        • Apr 2010
        • 16



        #33
        you guys have got me on the right track!!!!!!! By zooming in on the pictures ive found it is a zeiman trailer, i called zeiman and they told me the last couple digits of the vin is welded on the frame, send those number with proof of ownership to get a new legiable vin sticker reprinted. I have the auction ppl looking for me. fingers crossed. I called correct craft and they told me individual order numbers were hand stamped on the inside frame rail by the rear axel matching up boat and trailer from the factory. The bank said they would release the trailer for me for a small monetary amount (lol bastards) but its on me to find out the VIN information. core rider, the boats a little worse for wear but after a 2 years of being nautique less, its going to be like a breath of fresh air. Air tool, your blowing my mind. How did you find out that information just from a picture!!! You can see the hull number from the rear pic but not the front! To all i did screw up. not a pro air, just wishful thinking.

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        • AirTool
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 4049

          • Katy, Texas


          #34
          Originally posted by bradfrd View Post
          Air tool, your blowing my mind. How did you find out that information just from a picture!!!
          That's partly why I kept pushing on you for more information about the boat and the transaction, etc.

          You said before it "seems" like we know what we are talking about. It appeared you were still on the edge. Now you know.

          If the vin search doesn't pan out from looking at the trailer, I suggest again looking up the vin from the license plate number. If somebody has to stand in line at DMV for it, we can probably find someone to do it. I think the cost is 3 dollars.

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          • bradfrd
            • Apr 2010
            • 16



            #35
            I will never underestimate the power of the nautique community again! im still waiting to hear if they find any numbers on the frame. it sucks being 1500 miles away! i have the plate numer/state from condition report pics, im unfamiliar with the DMV and how they work, can i get this information over the phone?

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            • jasper
              • Feb 2005
              • 195



              #36
              If you want to try to find the VIN using the plate number and state, PM that info to me and I'll see if I can run it down.

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              • bradfrd
                • Apr 2010
                • 16



                #37
                jasper, i sent you a message and tried to upload the picture but i dont think it worked. i'll post it here if you wanna look. trailers pretty beat but it has wheels and thats what i am in desperate need of. thanks again to you and all your unreal. couple more years of saving then its the SAN 210 byerly then no more issues like this! Click image for larger version

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                • AirTool
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4049

                  • Katy, Texas


                  #38
                  That's strange it doesn't have Texas plates.

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                  • bradfrd
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 16



                    #39
                    ive seen it happen lots. the banks will send specialty items like marine items/semis/atvs etc to auctions that cater to those specific items, lots of time thats a state or two over.

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                    • SkiTundra
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 513

                      • Unknown


                      #40
                      Originally posted by bradfrd View Post
                      ive seen it happen lots. the banks will send specialty items like marine items/semis/atvs etc to auctions that cater to those specific items, lots of time thats a state or two over.
                      The previous owner is from San Angelo TX though. Maybe he purchased it very recently.

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                      • nautique_stealth
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 106

                        • IL

                        • 1999 Air Nautique

                        #41
                        Originally posted by bradfrd View Post
                        By zooming in on the pictures ive found it is a zeiman trailer....
                        Just wanted to put it out there that I have a 99 Air with a 98 DHM tandem trailer. The front half of that trailer is exactly like mine. Bowstop and all. Zeiman and DHM the same?
                        1999 Air Nautique - My first boat!

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                        • AirTool
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 4049

                          • Katy, Texas


                          #42
                          Originally posted by bradfrd View Post
                          ive seen it happen lots. the banks will send specialty items like marine items/semis/atvs etc to auctions that cater to those specific items, lots of time thats a state or two over.
                          My point was based on the fact that the boat has TX numbers.

                          Originally posted by SkiTundra View Post
                          The previous owner is from San Angelo TX though. Maybe he purchased it very recently.
                          I think he probably did. Well....he updated his TX sticker in April of 2012. But that doesn't mean he didn't have one before. Seems odd to purchase in April and get repo'd in June - for such a low cost boat.
                          Last edited by AirTool; 06-13-2012, 01:07 AM.

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                          • AirTool
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 4049

                            • Katy, Texas


                            #43
                            By the way....this thread is getting an incredibly large number of views. Not like that crazy thread with the bootleg gee twenty yadda yadda pics....but still above average.

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                            • AirTool
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 4049

                              • Katy, Texas


                              #44
                              Bump for an update ?

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                              • bradfrd
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 16



                                #45
                                *update* so after some exhausting telephone calls back and forth with the bank (owner) they finally found the vin stamped on the frame. I called the trailer manufacture and ordered a new VIN plate (30 bucks) The bank is willing to sell the trailer or $800, which is kind of ignorant due to the fact if it wasn't for me doing leg work they would have had to pay to send it to the scrap yard!!!! 800 seems like a good deal from what ive being seeing around. Thoughts?
                                Now the only thing i have to do is get it home!!!! Anybody have any good/bad shipping experiences? What can i expect to spend? I figure the trip to Dallas and back will cost me 1500 if i take my truck down.
                                PS. Thanks for all the help everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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