Prop Washing Out My Wake?

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  • mbaugh
    • Jul 2009
    • 18

    • Lexington, KY

    • Old: '95 Sport Nautique New: '03 SAN

    Prop Washing Out My Wake?

    I have an '04 SAN 210. For wakeboarding I run 400 lbs sacs in the rear lockers ~700lbs in the floor and a little up front. I typically have to drain the port side rear sac until it's about half full so the starboard side wake doesn't wash...and it still washes a little. I know these boats are sensitive to side to side weight distribution, but I am good about balancing the weight/people in the boat. And like I said I'm having to offset the weight in the back by around 200 lbs. Anybody else have this problem? I'm suspicious that the prop is the culprit. I don't know the specific prop, but it is one of OJ's wakeboarding props.
  • Texan1554
    • Apr 2011
    • 220

    • Dallas

    • 2002 SANTE

    #2
    Prop wash is not your issue. A lot of other threads around here about weighting these boats if you do a search.

    Drain the port side completely and add more weight up front. That 04 will throw a really really nice starboard wave if you properly weight it.

    Generally I fill my starboard tank, have another 250 on top of that, fill my center tank half full, put 400 on the starboard side up front and with a few people the wave is great. Other folks run more weight but that about the distribution. If you want to clean the wave up and lengthen it, add weight up front.
    2002 SANTE

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    • mbaugh
      • Jul 2009
      • 18

      • Lexington, KY

      • Old: '95 Sport Nautique New: '03 SAN

      #3
      I'm talking about wakeboarding...not wake surfing. And yes, I've read the ballast threads... and ridden behind multiple 210s with different weight configurations. But I've never experienced this. Just curious if anybody has experienced this. I don't feel like I should have to have such an uneven weight distribution to produce a wakeboarding wake that doesn't wash. I also don't remember having this problem with stock ballast and stock prop. Color me confused.

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      • gride
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 1441

        • War Eagle

        • 05' 210 team

        #4
        if you have stock factory ballast, plus wedge sacs then you need at least 750lbs in the bow of the boat. you also need to go at least 22.5-24.5mph. personally if it's just me and a buddy we run 1000lbs in the bow. we also keep 150lbs of lead(3 pieces) to offset the drivers weight.

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        • djmekinac
          • Apr 2012
          • 63

          • Canada

          • SAN 220 2007 SAN 210 BYERLY 2012

          #5
          My wife has a similar problem with the port wake (2012 210, LH rotation), she keeps telling me that even if the boat seems balanced, the starboard wake is better. I will swap propeller this week-end and see if it makes a difference.
          2012 210 Byerly
          2007 220 SANTE
          2003 Moomba Mobius LSV

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          • mbaugh
            • Jul 2009
            • 18

            • Lexington, KY

            • Old: '95 Sport Nautique New: '03 SAN

            #6
            I just have 400 lb sacks in each rear tank. I don't think it is a front to back weight distribution issue. The port side wake is nice and clean.

            Fyi... I typically ride a 75' line between 24 and 25 mph.

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            • gride
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 1441

              • War Eagle

              • 05' 210 team

              #7
              so explain to me your ballast setup. it sounds like you pulled the hard tanks and just have 400's? the rule is: whichever side is washed out needs more weight.

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              • Texan1554
                • Apr 2011
                • 220

                • Dallas

                • 2002 SANTE

                #8
                Sorry for the confusion on the first post, never think of prop wash in a wakeboarding wake. Way to far back.

                Weight up front will make the boat less sensitive in the back. If you're running 800 in back and 700 in center I'd want at the least 500-750 in the bow.

                Where are and what is your battery setup and cooler?
                2002 SANTE

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                • gride
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1441

                  • War Eagle

                  • 05' 210 team

                  #9
                  the prop rotation on your boat is going to make the starboard side "cleaner", but it really only applies to surfing. the things that control a washed out wake are: evenly balanced weight, speed, and driving in a straight line. simple as that.

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                  • mbaugh
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 18

                    • Lexington, KY

                    • Old: '95 Sport Nautique New: '03 SAN

                    #10
                    Yes, I swapped the hard tanks for 400lb sacs. Ive got maybe ~200lbs up front. Maybe I need more up front, but the port side is to my liking. I guess I'll just play with the weight some more. I understand the relationship between side to side weight distribution and side to side wake shape.

                    Cooler and battery are on starboard side. Sub is on port side, but no issues when ballast is empty.

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                    • mbaugh
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 18

                      • Lexington, KY

                      • Old: '95 Sport Nautique New: '03 SAN

                      #11
                      Thanks for the replies everyone.

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                      • Texan1554
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 220

                        • Dallas

                        • 2002 SANTE

                        #12
                        You've got 400#'s in your starboard locker, Battery, cooler AND DRIVER on starboard side and you're saying you have to drop to #200s on the port side to clean up the starboard? Just doesn't add up, conventional thought is that you'd be needing to drop weight out of your starboard bag. Any observers?

                        Either way, first thing I'd do is at least double your weight up front and start from scratch.
                        2002 SANTE

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                        • Chexi
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Feb 2025
                          • 2119

                          • Austin

                          • 2000 SAN

                          #13
                          I definitely need more weight on 1 of my sides than the other when wakeboarding to get a perfect wake on both sides. This was one of the many reasons I switched to a ballast puppy system. It's so easy to clean up the wake now.
                          Now
                          2000 SAN

                          Previously
                          1999 Air Nautique
                          1996 Tige Pre-2000
                          1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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                          • lucky7t
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1306

                            • Oklahoma

                            • 2015 SANTE

                            #14
                            Port side empty, belly full starboard full. I finally get reasonable starboard wake at 21. I have no idea why but port side is very clean most of the time. I posted similar subject last week. I tried this morning and got decent results with above

                            2012 210 SANTE
                            Current Correct Craft Boat
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                            • djmekinac
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 63

                              • Canada

                              • SAN 220 2007 SAN 210 BYERLY 2012

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lucky7t View Post
                              Port side empty, belly full starboard full. I finally get reasonable starboard wake at 21. I have no idea why but port side is very clean most of the time. I posted similar subject last week. I tried this morning and got decent results with above

                              2012 210 SANTE
                              Port empty? My starboard is always clean because I'm in the driver's seat and I have to compensate to get the port wake clean. You seem to have the opposite situation of mine, same boat-year!!!! I honestly think it is a user problem rather than a hardware malfunction.
                              2012 210 Byerly
                              2007 220 SANTE
                              2003 Moomba Mobius LSV

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