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  • WakeUp
    • Aug 2004
    • 37

    • Summerville, SC


    #16
    Direct Replacement Ballast Valves

    TH Marine will sell direct but only if you use a credit card and they don't accept returns. Call the phone number on the web ling. I got three @$22.50 each plus shipping. Thanks to Mike-D for finding these. This is definitely less expensive than substituting the Flowright valves with Red Hat Solenoids and you keep your original controls. Since they are direct replacement valves you also don't have to change any wiring, etc. I will replace mine as soon as I receive them. I am interested to know others' success stories and I'm sure CC will be as well. With some positive history this is something they might buy into.

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    • hsmunoz
      • Nov 2004
      • 191

      • livermore


      #17
      RE: Direct Replacement Ballast Valves

      I ordered a set from Outdoor Superstore, 71.67 for 3 of them, delivered to my door. should have them in a week or so.

      thanks Mike-d!
      2004 SV-211 Team
      Silver cloud deck, Onyx Hull.

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      • hsmunoz
        • Nov 2004
        • 191

        • livermore


        #18
        RE: Direct Replacement Ballast Valves

        great! these valves just went on sale for 18.25 each !!!! just got the email

        LINK

        have fun all!
        2004 SV-211 Team
        Silver cloud deck, Onyx Hull.

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        • WakeUp
          • Aug 2004
          • 37

          • Summerville, SC


          #19
          Direct Replacement Ballast Valves

          Just got mine in the mail today. Good looking valves for the money. They are easy to set up and easy to install. If you are replacing them on an SV-211 with a ZR6 about the only way to get to the rear valves is to pull the floor cover. Then you can access them from the front near the V-drive. The belly tank valve is easier. Remove the cover with the round access port in the ski locker and it is right there. The existing controls work great. The ball valves open and close with no binding or sticking. Is anyone who is using these valves still drilling the intakes to relieve the overpressuration. I don't want to if I don't need to.

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          • mike-d
            • Aug 2003
            • 236



            #20
            th marine valves

            :grin: do not drill your scupper, these valves will hold the water out. the diverter valve can be substituted to send the water to your extra wedge tank bags, for those of you looking for extra weight for your boats. The pump will fill an extra bag, just reverse the valve opening to empty back into the hard tank.

            fyi
            Mike
            2001 san
            aka mad scientist!

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            • Dr.John
              • May 2004
              • 225

              • Austin, USA

              • 2001 Sport/Air- SOLD

              #21
              RE: th marine valves

              Well I discovered that my ballast pump (Attwood A750) bit the dust. On my '01 it is the only pump, thank goodness....it was a bear to get out.

              What do you guys suggest I replace it with? I don't think I want to run new (larger) tubing.

              Would I benefit by a reversable? I'm pretty dumb about these things so I rely heavily on the Planets brain trust :mrgreen: !

              Now where would the valves mentioned above be located on my '01?
              \'01 Sporty Air Nautique

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              • hsmunoz
                • Nov 2004
                • 191

                • livermore


                #22
                RE: th marine valves

                you can get that pump at walmart for 19 bucks. Thats' what I did before I found out I had a corroded connection
                2004 SV-211 Team
                Silver cloud deck, Onyx Hull.

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                • mike-d
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 236



                  #23
                  valves

                  Dr. John,
                  your boat does not use these ballast valves. 02--05 boats use them to control water flow from the pump to the hardtanks.

                  sv211's use the attwood 750's? I thought they upgraded to higher output pumps on the newer boats?

                  Dr. John,
                  you can retrofit the ballast system on your boat to use a manual on off switch or a reversable pump system to fill your tank etc.

                  Mike

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                  • Dr.John
                    • May 2004
                    • 225

                    • Austin, USA

                    • 2001 Sport/Air- SOLD

                    #24
                    Re: valves

                    Originally posted by mike-d
                    Dr. John,
                    you can retrofit the ballast system on your boat to use a manual on off switch or a reversable pump system to fill your tank etc.
                    Mike
                    Ahhh, that's what I need to know! What is the best thing to do at this point? Would I simply (did I say simply) replace the Atwoods with a reversable (Water Puppy) pump? Attached is a crude sketch of what I think the system looks like. Yes! No!
                    \'01 Sporty Air Nautique

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                    • Dr.John
                      • May 2004
                      • 225

                      • Austin, USA

                      • 2001 Sport/Air- SOLD

                      #25
                      Another ballast valve question

                      More advice and counsel needed!
                      In order to fill and drain my '01 system, you have to open and close the thru-hull seacock manually. Opening the engine cover each time is getting tiresome. It seems like I could add an electrically controlled valve that is connected electrically to both the fill and drain pumps, so that anytime either the fill or drain pump is energized, the electrically actuated "seacock" valve opens.
                      I don't know how to electrically isolate the fill and drain if they're both connected to the seacock valve. Has anyone tried this? What valve did you use?
                      I know of NautiqueJeff's valve idea and maybe one of those might do (assuming it's explosion proof), but are there other alternatives and how would you isolate it? I really didn't want to undertake a major re-do during the season, so I thought this might work for the interim.
                      \'01 Sporty Air Nautique

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                      • FLCERIK
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 68

                        • Reno, Nevada


                        #26
                        Dr. John

                        I have a 01 Super Air and leave the seacock valve open all the time. It does not hurt anything. I do agree that it takes a while to fill and empty the tanks.

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                        • Dr.John
                          • May 2004
                          • 225

                          • Austin, USA

                          • 2001 Sport/Air- SOLD

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FLCERIK
                          Dr. John

                          I have a 01 Super Air and leave the seacock valve open all the time. It does not hurt anything. I do agree that it takes a while to fill and empty the tanks.
                          Thanks for the input! If I leave the seacock open, the tank will take on some water. That's OK unless I want to slalom :twisted:
                          Do you not take on any water in the tanks?
                          \'01 Sporty Air Nautique

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                          • jonfo
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 385

                            • Bellevue, WA

                            • 1990 SN 2016 G23

                            #28
                            >>sv211's use the attwood 750's? I thought they upgraded to higher output pumps on the newer boats?

                            They use 3/4 inch inside diameter plumbing so they are restricted by that more than anything. I doubt it is even pumping at 750gph unless they maintain the 3/4 ID throughout the system. The scupper is 1 inch ID but they bring it all down to 3/4 before it gets to the helm control valve. My advice to CC is to use 1 inch ID throughout the system which would double the potential flow of the system.
                            -Jon
                            16 G23
                            07 220 TE
                            05 211 TE
                            95 SS (210)
                            89 SN

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                            • FLCERIK
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 68

                              • Reno, Nevada


                              #29
                              Dr. John,

                              When leaving the seacocks open the amount of water that enters the ballast is very minimal. My guage reads that they are empty but when I look at the tank there is a small amount of water, maybe a pound or two worth.

                              If you want to ski my suggestion would be to find a buddy that has a ski boat. I use to be an avid skier and found it impossible to get a small wake behind a Super Air. It is not the best ski boat. Wakeboarding behind the Super Air is awsome.

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                              • Dr.John
                                • May 2004
                                • 225

                                • Austin, USA

                                • 2001 Sport/Air- SOLD

                                #30
                                Originally posted by FLCERIK
                                Dr. John,

                                When leaving the seacocks open the amount of water that enters the ballast is very minimal. My guage reads that they are empty but when I look at the tank there is a small amount of water, maybe a pound or two worth.

                                If you want to ski my suggestion would be to find a buddy that has a ski boat. I use to be an avid skier and found it impossible to get a small wake behind a Super Air. It is not the best ski boat. Wakeboarding behind the Super Air is awsome.
                                You are right, the SAN leaves alot to be disired in a slalom wake, that's why I opted for the Sport (same as Air w/ Tower). It does have a pretty healthy bump, but the wake is acceptable at/above 32 mph! One of my ski buddies has the ultimate ski boat (early MC) and it is the cats meow for slalom.

                                I find it interesting that you don't take on more water, I guess I haven't actually looked at/in the tank to see, but the gauges read a little more than when their fully drained.
                                \'01 Sporty Air Nautique

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