TSC1 vs. TSC2

[aswinter05]

I had the opportunity to ski behind a TSC1 w/ a 422 prop yesterday. It was incredible at 15-off @ 30. The only other ski boats I had to compare it to at the same speeds and line lengths were a Prostar 209 and a Prostar 197. There was no comparison. The SN's wake was far superior.

As I continue my search for a new boat for next ski season, I'm torn between a TSC1 and a TSC2. The general consensus seems to say that the TSC1 hull has a better wake. The only problem I have with getting a TSC1 is that it's an older boat and they are hard to find extremely taken care of. I like the feeling of having a "newer" boat with a few upgraded components, etc.

I know I'm probably being picky but how much of a difference is there between the two hulls? I should mention that a 200 CB is basically out of the question because of my current budget. Thanks for the input. Please try to refrain from posting bias opinions. We all love our own boat the most

[TRBenj]

I'm torn between a TSC1 and a TSC2. The general consensus seems to say that the TSC1 hull has a better wake.

Unless youre talking about the trick wake, Id be curious to know where you heard that. The general comments Ive always heard are that the TSC1 is very good, but the TSC2 is slightly better. Especially at the speeds and lengths where the rooster comes into play- the TSC2 hull does a better job of knocking it down. The difference isnt huge (both have great wakes), but I do think the newer one is better. CC never went "backwards" on a newer hull, in terms of slalom performance (unlike MC did in 1998).

Allegedly the TSC1 has a better trick wake though... but I bet the TSC3 (gate up) and NWZ (1990-1996) were better than either in that regard.

[DanielC]

My comments are going to echo TRBenj.
The rooster tail on a TSC 1 at 22 off hull was made smaller on the TSC 2 hull, but the trick wake suffered a little. The smaller rooster tail at 22 off on the TSC3 hull was still smaller, but the trick wake was made better.

But reality is all three hulls actually have a very good wake.

If it was me looking for a Ski Nautique in your budget, I would not rule out a 1999 or earlier TSC 1 hull. You can get the GT-40 engine. You also get analogue gauges, no problems with the digital Teleflex gauges introduced in 2000. In my opinion, I prefer the traditional side stripes on the pre 2000 boats, I am still not a fan of the big "N". On a 1997, and a 1998 you can still completely remove the rear seat.

[swc5150]

I had the opportunity to ski behind a TSC1 w/ a 422 prop yesterday. It was incredible at 15-off @ 30. The only other ski boats I had to compare it to at the same speeds and line lengths were a Prostar 209 and a Prostar 197. There was no comparison. The SN's wake was far superior.

As I continue my search for a new boat for next ski season, I'm torn between a TSC1 and a TSC2. The general consensus seems to say that the TSC1 hull has a better wake. The only problem I have with getting a TSC1 is that it's an older boat and they are hard to find extremely taken care of. I like the feeling of having a "newer" boat with a few upgraded components, etc.

I know I'm probably being picky but how much of a difference is there between the two hulls? I should mention that a 200 CB is basically out of the question because of my current budget. Thanks for the input. Please try to refrain from posting bias opinions. We all love our own boat the most

I honestly think the only way a slalom wake difference could be perceived between a TSC1 to 3 would be based on the amount of fuel, gear and crew weight/position.

[aswinter05]

Excellent info. I won't rule out 2002+ 196s now. Trick wake doesn't matter to me. I don't see myself ever doing that.

Does everyone still recommend the "422" prop no matter which 196 I purchase?

[swc5150]

I'd stick with the 422.

[east tx skier]

Any TSC era hull 1, 2, or 3, with a 422 is great for slalom at 30 mph and up the length of the line. Agree TSC2 is slightly better for slalom, but slightly is key. You basically can't go wrong with a well maintained boat from 1997--2009.

[NCH2oSki]

You can also find tsc2's in the SE trim with simple faria gauges....key start, and rocker switches. My ski 206 is an SE, and the girls love the open bow for afternoon cruises, and my ski buds and i love it in the mornings for course runs.

[TRBenj]

The 422 would be the recommended prop for any of the "mainstream" motors (ie, GT40 or Excal). 6.0L and Python powered boats would require bigger wheels, and the 5.0L would probably benefit from something smaller.

The difference between the TSC1 and TSC2/3 is more than just perception... note how "undefined" the rooster is in this pic... TSC2, 15off, ~30mph. TSC1 has a slightly more defined 3-prong rooster. Not nearly as defined as the NWZ hull though... and still a world class slalom wake. I cant tell the difference between a TSC2 and TSC3 (gate down), either visually, or behind the boat... which makes sense, as they are supposed to be equivalent.

[swc5150]

Maybe you can see the difference in the -15 rooster, but can it be felt? Maybe I'm not the best resource afterall, as I haven't skied -15 in quite a while (or at 30 for that matter). I can tell you that our TSC 3 boats wakes looked taller than our all of our Prostars visually, but the additional height was nothing more than foam bubble bath.

[east tx skier]

I agree. TSC rooster tail is a soft bubble bath. Here it is at 32 mph, 34 mph, and 36 mph.