G-23 ballast??????

[grnking]

Am I the only one who was shocked to Learn the g-23 was a giant fly high bag? How long will it last? Is it as durable as the hard tanks?
I know when I used them in my 230 the bags began to wear after years of use.

[AllianceBJJ]

Where did you learn this was the case?

[ironj32]

Yes the G's have FlyHigh bags. I wasn't shocked at all. I was actually glad that someone finally started using them. We usually pull the hard tanks and replace them with bags, when possible. I have never seen a FlyHigh bag break. I have, however, heard of and seen a few hard tanks bust in a few different boat brands.
I personally like the bags, get way more weight out of them without taking up so much room. Here is a pic of the factory port rear bag in my G23.

[tdc_worm]

I personally like the bags, get way more weight out of them without taking up so much room..

a pound of feathers is a pound of feathers, no matter what you store it in.

[grnking]

I just was surprised when I found that out. I just figured for 130k it would be better built than a tige. Don't get me wrong I am still a huge fan!!


Greg

[vision]

Yes the G's have FlyHigh bags. I wasn't shocked at all. I was actually glad that someone finally started using them. We usually pull the hard tanks and replace them with bags, when possible. I have never seen a FlyHigh bag break. I have, however, heard of and seen a few hard tanks bust in a few different boat brands.
I personally like the bags, get way more weight out of them without taking up so much room. Here is a pic of the factory port rear bag in my G23.

I agree, the bag was a selling point for me. When tanks crack, you can not always change them or repair them. But the bags are replaceable. Not easy to do, but replaceable I was told.

[AllianceBJJ]

I just was surprised when I found that out. I just figured for 130k it would be better built than a tige. Don't get me wrong I am still a huge fan!!


Greg

Please tell me you are kidding about not being better built than a Tige....Seriously???? And just because of using bags???

I think you will find more support for your position over on the Tige or Wakeworld forums....

[grnking]

Please tell me you are kidding about not being better built than a Tige....Seriously???? And just because of using bags???

I think you will find more support for your position over on the Tige or Wakeworld forums....

Not bashing the g23 ..... Sorry for the tige reference ..... Nautique fit has and is the best I've been in and I just felt "let down" when I found out that it was built this way. Maybe it is better I know I liked my 230 with the hard tanks out and 1100 in the back ,but I did have some wear on the bags after 100 hrs .
I haven't been in a g23 yet I just seen the bags on fly high's Facebook page.

[ironj32]

a pound of feathers is a pound of feathers, no matter what you store it in.

Bags will mold to fit the little nook and crannies, plus they are not 1/4 in thick...allowing for more ballast. In reference to taking up less room, this statement is around the fact that the bags will receed when not in use, however, you are correct that on a G this is pretty much a mute issue, because the tanks are under the floor.

[Nordicron]

That looks like Nautique was thinking about going with a MB style but changed their minds to using bags.

[xrichard]

I like the idea of hard tanks...but, IMHO, bags are sooooo much better. There's really no comparison for two reasons: 1. The bag is much more efficient at filling the space available, 2. If the tank (hard or soft) ever fails, a bag is easy to replace....a tank is a bitch.

As for durability, I've had a tank crack in my 2008 210. I've also had a Fly High bag fail. Both were covered under warranty. With the tank, Bob at Superior made it super easy on me (as with all service on my boat), but it was still a relatively major operation: drag boat to Bob, floor and gas tank get pulled, tank gets replaced, drag boat home. If I was out of warranty, I have no idea what that would have cost.

With the sack: I call Fly High, they send a new bag, I'm up and running in no time.

Better than a bag: MB's system. I don't know if there is a downside to it...I've only seen upside: super simple and super fast.

[lion90]

I have no problem with the bags at all. I do wonder how the water levels are detected with the bags. It seems it would be flow based. If that is the case, how does piggybacking more bags on top affect that. The system will think it is done when the internal is full. I would assume that you have to set to manual fill to fill the piggyback bags. I would think you would have the same on reverse where the system would think it is empty, but it wouldn't be since it didn't run enough to empty internal and piggyback.

Not an issue for me since I would not do that in this boat, but I am curious. Maybe that is why n3 was adding additional pumps for the extra bags.

[GeistWakeDoc]

I had hard tank crack in MC X-star... dealer did repair as to replace was "impossible" -- involving lifting out floor, blah, blah, blah... repair held for half season and failed... bags are easier to service if needed...

[ironj32]

I do wonder how the water levels are detected with the bags. It seems it would be flow based. If that is the case, how does piggybacking more bags on top affect that. The system will think it is done when the internal is full. I would assume that you have to set to manual fill to fill the piggyback bags. I would think you would have the same on reverse where the system would think it is empty, but it wouldn't be since it didn't run enough to empty internal and piggyback.

This is exactly what happens. I plumbed in an overflow on my rear port tank, as a test. For filling, it really didn't bother me, as I just let it run until water comes out the vent hole, but when I wanted to empty back to just factory, the gauge displayed as empty. It is actually faster to just fill/empty extra sacs with an external pump. I've toyed around with the idea of plumbing in an extra Jabsco or two, but haven't decided to actually do it, yet.

[biggator]

J -
after riding it stock.. I can't help but ask why you'd need any more ballast. That wake is scary big with just stock! At some point, I'd think I wouldn't even be able to see the other side of the wake (kidding.. sort of).

"-)