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  • swankster
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1052

    • DFW, TX

    • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

    #76
    Originally posted by sstexan View Post
    2014 Ford 250 Platinum 4x4 6.7 Powerstroke @65-70 9 MPG- It for sure tows better than anything I have ever owned, but it should, it is a dump truck. I live in Texas, so my numbers are mostly sea level and hot.
    I just bought the same truck only a year older. Rides rougher than my 2005 F150 but it will pull my G23! I'm getting the same mileage and am in the same State. Also using the trailering option helps both acceleration and stopping. The only thing this truck needs is a bigger fuel tank! 26 gallons is to small!!!
    2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
    2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
    pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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    • philb
      • Jan 2009
      • 125

      • Australia


      #77
      What nyryan said. That set up is an accident waiting to happen.
      Get the truck and trailer level by sorting the suspension and hitch out.
      The trailer bunks appear to protrude several inches past the transom. Slide the boat back until the bunks are flush with transom.

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      • swankster
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 1052

        • DFW, TX

        • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

        #78
        With the G23 behind my F150 I had to get a three inch drop and turn it over to get the trailer level. Also, it was hard to find an 8000+ pound 2" ball locally. Had to order it from the web. Boatmate needs to go to a 2 5/8" on G trailers.
        2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
        2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
        pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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        • UofM21
          • Oct 2013
          • 88

          • op[][


          #79
          Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
          Wow, that squat on your truck is bad. I tow with a Tundra and it's not that bad.

          if you wanna keep that F150, suggest you look into adding Roadmaster Active Suspension. You need it, that is not a safe tow. Emergency braking would be a trainwreck like that. And you don't have the hitch at the proper height, slightly above level for max braking. Is your hitchrated for 8000??

          any chance you have ran your G across the scales for an actual weight?

          What bran trailer is that? It looks like the boat needs to slide 6-10" to the rear to reduce tongue weight. Is that bow stop adjustable? Ubolts?
          I will +1 on this statement. There is no way that truck should be pulling that boat the way it is sitting now. It is a far stretch with the 5.0 to pull that boat period, but without airbags or something to stop that squat it is just downright dangerous. No offense to Kporsch but I hate seeing that because it puts other people on the road at risk other than just you.

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          • Kporsch
            • May 2013
            • 121

            • Houston

            • 2018 G23

            #80
            Originally posted by UofM21 View Post
            I will +1 on this statement. There is no way that truck should be pulling that boat the way it is sitting now. It is a far stretch with the 5.0 to pull that boat period, but without airbags or something to stop that squat it is just downright dangerous. No offense to Kporsch but I hate seeing that because it puts other people on the road at risk other than just you.
            Y'all can relax. My truck barely squats at all. It's hard to tell from the picture but the parking lot is sloped for drainage and is why it looks like that in the picture. Yes the hitch and trailer and truck are all rated for the weight. It is a 2 5/8" ball. The braking action on that trailer is awesome and I can actually probably stop faster than with just the truck.

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            • swankster
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 1052

              • DFW, TX

              • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

              #81
              What trailer is it? I would like the 2 5/8 ball.
              2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
              2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
              pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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              • nyryan2001
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1993

                • Lake Anna


                #82
                10,000lb rated 2" ball off E-Trailer, 3" drop or riseClick image for larger version

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                2019 G23 450
                2014 G23 550
                2013 G23 450
                2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                2007 Yamaha AR210

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                • nyryan2001
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1993

                  • Lake Anna


                  #83
                  Originally posted by Kporsch View Post
                  Y'all can relax. My truck barely squats at all. It's hard to tell from the picture but the parking lot is sloped for drainage and is why it looks like that in the picture. Yes the hitch and trailer and truck are all rated for the weight. It is a 2 5/8" ball. The braking action on that trailer is awesome and I can actually probably stop faster than with just the truck.

                  Riiiiiiiight. You've got it all under control, just a bad pic. Not only do you not have the proper hitch height, terrible squat indicating excessive tongue weight on likely and under rated hitch, and the boat not properly positioned on the trailer, case of beer says you're over your tow capacity. Big time over is if you have the 3.55 gears. Likely right at max if you have the 3.73s with full gas and a few folks and gear in your truck/boat, assuming a 8300lb boat and trailer combined tow.

                  Not it quite as bad as the guy towing the G25 with the 6.2L Raptor. 450hp good to go right?
                  2019 G23 450
                  2014 G23 550
                  2013 G23 450
                  2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                  2007 Yamaha AR210

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                  • Kporsch
                    • May 2013
                    • 121

                    • Houston

                    • 2018 G23

                    #84
                    Originally posted by swankster View Post
                    What trailer is it? I would like the 2 5/8 ball.
                    I don't recall the brand. I know it's not boatmate or ramlin. Maybe extreme or something like that.

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                    • bsb4fsu
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 333

                      • East Tennessee

                      • 2021 G23

                      #85
                      Originally posted by swankster View Post
                      What trailer is it? I would like the 2 5/8 ball.
                      My Ramlin uses the 2 5/8" ball.
                      2021 G23 450 - Current
                      2019 G23 450 - Sold
                      2018 G23 450 - Sold
                      2017 G23 450 - Sold
                      2016 G23 450 - Sold
                      2014 G23 550 - Sold
                      2013 G23 450 - Sold
                      2012 210 - Sold
                      2012 200 Mapple - Sold
                      2011 230 - Sold

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                      • Kporsch
                        • May 2013
                        • 121

                        • Houston

                        • 2018 G23

                        #86
                        Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
                        Riiiiiiiight. You've got it all under control, just a bad pic. Not only do you not have the proper hitch height, terrible squat indicating excessive tongue weight on likely and under rated hitch, and the boat not properly positioned on the trailer, case of beer says you're over your tow capacity. Big time over is if you have the 3.55 gears. Likely right at max if you have the 3.73s with full gas and a few folks and gear in your truck/boat, assuming a 8300lb boat and trailer combined tow.

                        Not it quite as bad as the guy towing the G25 with the 6.2L Raptor. 450hp good to go right?
                        Wow what's with the negativity? I'm not telling everyone to go buy an F150 to do daily towing. I'm just stating for my purposes it does OK. Of course I got the 3.73s (I had the 3.73s in my previous 4 f150s as well). And no I'm not over the max tow rating of 9300 lbs for 4x4 5.0 145" WB.

                        I will get a good pic of the truck not squatting in the spring of 2015 (which is the next time I actually plan to tow the boat). The squat is no different than the OP's first pic.

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                        • nyryan2001
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1993

                          • Lake Anna


                          #87
                          9300 is for a completely empty truck, full gas and and 175lb driver only.

                          Add 3-4 additional folks their bags, few tools, hitch... Your truck options and you are within 500lbs if you run a skinny boat gear wise. Not trying to be negative... Want you to be safe brother. Let one thing go wrong... Flat tire, emergency stop, bow strap break while ill balanced etc etc.
                          2019 G23 450
                          2014 G23 550
                          2013 G23 450
                          2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                          2007 Yamaha AR210

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                          • thedude
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 451

                            • SW PA


                            #88
                            Just checked the hitch on my 06 Duramax the other day, that little thing was only rated at 7500 lbs. Pretty weak I'd say. Just ordered a Curt 16,000 lb hitch online, then had to find a 16,000 lb rated receiver and ball. All Curt products. I should be up to code once getting those installed. If ya have a big boat, check your hitch. I was a bit surprised in mine.

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                            • nauty220
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 230

                              • Friendswood TX

                              • 2014 G23 450 Coastal Edition

                              #89
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfHtcUZXljw

                              Apologize for the language but this is hilarious!
                              2014 G23 450 Coastal Edition
                              2013 G23 450 Coastal Edition
                              2012 SANTE 230 Coastal Edition
                              2010 SANTE 230
                              2007 SANTE 220
                              2003 SANTE 210

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                              • Daytomann
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 211

                                • Oklahoma City, OK.


                                #90
                                If any of you guys want to do the single best mod you can ever do to improve your trucks towing capability.......GET SOME AIRBAGS.
                                I leveled my 2006 F150 so anytime I had a load on it or towed anything, the rear end squatted badly. I couldn't stand it. So I did some research and found an auto leveling kit with Airlift bags. IT WAS AWESOME!
                                Because I had the bags always loaded with 10lbs of air, to keep it at the desired level when not under load, it had a wonderful side effect that greatly Improved ride quality of my truck. It all but wiped out the rear end chatter that is prone to leaf spring equipped trucks when not under load.

                                Take a look at the pics.

                                No load, leveled. Set up with 10lbs of air at all times.


                                Heres the terrible squat when the the boat was hooked up. The air bags had not inflated yet.


                                Now, here is is 10 seconds after the key is turned on. Its auto lifts to level.


                                A $750 wellllllllll spent.

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