G23 with 4 racks possible?

[wakeboarder3780]

Hey folks. Coming from a malibu background and trying to learn more about the nautique line. Specifically the G23 design is enthralling to me. The way they did the interior is pheonominal IMO. Every beef I've ever had with interior is addressed in the G23

Well anyhoo, had a question about the G23 which I can't seem to find more info on. Is it even possible to get 4 racks on it (meaning is there a special bolt pattern necessary, etc) Is it possible to get quad racks on the tower and still be able to fold it down without interfering with the interior? Right now I have 4 racks on my boat and I can honestly say I need them. You get a couple buddies out that bring a wakeboard or a surfboard and forget about it. I'm just curious because I can't quite see how tight the tower is to the interior in the videos I've seen.

Sorry if this is a dumb question. If so feel free to haze the noob

[Laketexoma]

I'm sure you could mount some on it. I was thinking about he same thing, I had 4 on my old 230. But I cant see where they would go. You can put them in the rear storage and under the passanger seat. Welcome to the G23 club!! LOL

[OKWAKEBDR]

Why not just get a Z5? Then you've got 4 boards in the racks and at least 3 more on the bimini. That's 7 before you even start with all the extra storage in the boat. I can't see the need for additional racks.

[wakeboarder3780]

Can't say I'm a huge fan of the z5 but thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't personally get it for aesthetic purposes (nothing against someone who likes it). As for storing wakeboards in the actual boat storage, I simply would never want to. The more things that get stored under seats are the more times you're asking people to get up. As for the comment about can't see the need - I'm a perfect use case of the need. Lets say I have 4 riders on the boat and some wives who *might* ride. That means I need to bring at least 1 community board, and 4 wakeboards - thats 3 racks used up already. If I have a surfboard or two (which is the case) forget about it. I can't think of any towers off the top of my head that limit to 2 board racks, just mainly curious if anyone has done this yet. I'm assuming it's possible but would just like confirmation.

Anyway, I can assure you if you're preparing for a big crew capacity of core riders, the rear lockers are filled with ballast, and you're going to have a LOT of boards on your hands. Another thing that typically gets me is entertaining for my family. I've got lots of sisters, brother in laws, nieces and nephews. I have had 14 people in my boat before. Constantly asking kids and adults to shuffle around while trying to get the next person going isn't exactly a treat.

Edit: Thanks for the welcome Hoping I'll learn a bunch here like I did on TMC. Like I said, super pumped about the G23, but will take a few years before i could afford one, I'm sure others here know what I'm talking about

[ironj32]

Sorry, I don't have any info as to whether or not you can put on more racks....I'd hitup Roswell and see if they have anything made yet. I know you said you're not a fan of storing them in "actual storage", because you don't want to have people get up - you can fit 3 or 4 wakeboards (event a surf board) in each rear compartment, so no one would have to get up from their seat. That's a total of 9 or 12 wakeboards and no one needs to move at all. Even if you put an extra 750 pound sac in each side, you can still fit 2 or 3 boards on each side...the lockers are massive.

Another thing, if you have 8-14 people in the boat that you need to store that many boards, you are not going to need extra ballast (it won't do you any good, as there is a threshold to the weight/wake benefit)...you won't even be able to get on plain unless you have the 550hp engine.

[Laptom]

I find it unbelievable that cc won't offer 4 racks from factory. You make a boat for 15 people, but only 4 can bring their boards... Z5 is also not my thing..
Our 230 has 4 racks (2 spinners, 2 flight clips) on the fct1. Looks and works great, no wet boards in the boat!

2 issues cc should solve: paddle wheel zero off (for river wakeboarding) & and more board racks factory..

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[wakeboarder3780]

After watching this video I got a lot closer look at the tower and the rack setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEc3aqXnyDM

It appears the racks may be integrated into the white bracket that joins to two main tower bars together. If that's the case i think we're SOL for having 4 racks unless the redesign it next year or go with aftermarket racks. However, if the racks aren't integrated into that "bracket" and have their own sleeve clamp that is just clamping to the round tubing, I think we're in luck! Unfortunately I don't have anywhere to go look at one of these beauties without driving a significant distance. Perhaps a G owner could chime in on whether the rack is integrated into the bracket or if it's standalone and just butted up tightly to it?

[wakeboarder3780]

Decided to make a 6 hour drive to see one of these to answer some questions for myself. The short answer is you *cannot* get 4 racks on this tower from the dealer (aftermarket may be another story but after seeing it in person I think it's going to get a little tight trying to get the other 2 racks on since the integrated racks are positioned smack dab in the middle of the tower).

Essentially the rack is integrated into the bracket on the tower. Here is a picture that illustrates what I mean:


As such the 2013's will not have the ability to have 4 racks from the dealer which I verified with the salesman showing me the boat. I do have to say there is a lot of storage in the rear lockers and under the observer seat, however under the normal seat bases there is average space. For my particular use case, the rear lockers get bags added immediately to enhance the wake even more (I personally don't invest this much in a boat without seeing exactly what it can do). The observer chair is where I store all the life jackets (you need a ton of life jackets to be legal if you ever have a lot of people in your boat) so that takes up a considerable amount of space.

For my specific use case, I am frustrated that I can't get 4 racks. However, that being said, it was the ONLY downside I could find in the entire boat (and I am a very unbiased, critical reviewer when it comes to boats). There wasn't really much question in my mind before I went, the boat seemed amazing, seeing it in person just confirmed it. One thing I would mention is that the compartment that holds the batteries and pumps seems bigger in person than it did in videos - good thing. The pocket door wind dam is nice because then you aren't clunking around storing the separate wind dam - it just retracts into the driver side behind the dash - nice feature. The other thing I loved was having an integrated boat charger on the boat. I'm a little worried about how long the charger will last since it will constantly be in a marine environment (moisture, vibration / shock) however even if I had to replace it every couple years, the simple ease of use of being able to take a regular exension cord and stuff it in a built in receptacle instead of lugging chargers around is a big win IMO.

The only other thing I'd mention to at least warn other people that like to put bags in the lockers. The engine walls *will* need stout reinforcement. This is true in my malibu as well because running 1100's in the rear typically require a fair amount of reinforcement but I'd say this engine wall divider is even softer than on the bu's. I think you'd have to get crafty about how to do the reinforcement but it can definitely be done, just noteworthy for other folks that push their boats limits.

All this to say that I am legitimately frustrated that I can't have 4 racks and I really REALLY hope CC / nautique addresses this in the near future because its the only variable that sets them behind the competition (both bu and mc support quad racks). Here's hoping 2014 comes with quads!

[Miljack]

3780, I would agree with your assesment re: boards, I have a buddy who usually brings 3 w/him! The stock racks are Roswells, and they also supply the towers, so it's worth a call to them to determine if they have some aftermarket offerings. They do make a clamp which supports those swivels/racks. Also worth checking out Samson (sp?) Sports up in WA state, they have some really nice swivels and racks.
I like the z5, so that would be my solution...

[wakeboarder3780]

Great info to know miljack, thanks for the heads up. Checking into it with roswell now to see what they say. I'll share the info here so others can know their options too

[wakeboarder3780]

My Communication with Roswell, sounds like it wouldn't be possible to get 2 more spinners on it

Me: Hey folks,
Been looking at the nautique g23 recently and I have to say I'm very impressed with the boat. I only had one gripe about the entire boat and that was the fact that the dealer was telling me it wasn't possible to order the boat with 4 racks on it. I heard from a fellow forum member (planetnautique) that you guys make the towers and racks for this boat. If that's true, do you have any idea of it's possible to add 2 racks aftermarket to the tower? The problem I see is that the current integrated racks are smack dab in the middle of the tower so I think it would be tough to squeeze them in above or below. What are your thoughts on this?


Rep: we are making the accessories but not this specific tower for Nautique. The first question to ask you in regard of the rack is would it need to swivel ?
Thanks and have a GREAT DAY!


Me: Ideally it would swivel and look as close to stock as possible. This is what the current ones look like up close:


Rep: To be honest it would be very difficult for it to match the factory due to the tower shape and placement of factory racks. Sorry. We could probably add a set of static racks somewhere else on the tower but would need to test fit.
Thanks and have a GREAT DAY!

[Nordicron]

I think your just going to have I make due with another set of static racks. Hopefully Roswell could come up with something that looks close to factory.

Really how many towers out there on other boats let your have 4 sets of factory swivel racks and still be useable when loaded?

[Miljack]

Malibus have places for 4, but not sure if they can all be swivels. I could see a way to do it on a G style tower, but I think you'd have to omit the stock mount swivel and go higher and lower...

[Nordicron]

From looking at pics it appears that the factory swivel racks are just bolted onto the end of that center piece and could easily be removed. I would think that roswell could manufacture some normal/traditional tower clamps that would allow you to relocate a factory rack above and below that center piece.

[Miljack]

Roswell could do it, but it's not that straight forward. They would have to develop two different clamps for the lower and upper positions, and because the tower is not that tall, the boards would probably interfere with the tower speakers. Probably a fixed rack up top would cover you.