wakeboarding with a 206 TSC3 hull

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  • slob02
    • Sep 2003
    • 333

    • Shawnee Lake Jamestown, Ohio

    • 1993 SNOB 1997 196 2004 206 Team 2008 210 Team 2020 210

    #16
    I had a 1993 SNOB I would put 1,500 (fat seat) in the rear and 500 in the front.
    I had a 1997 Closed bow that I would put 1,500 (fat seat) in the rear.
    I had a 2004 206 Air with 200 lb built in ballast and I would add 1,400 (700 each side of the motor)

    All in all, the 93, with more weight, probably had the largest wake with the 2004 right behind it. So I would say yes to your question about the 206 being compared to the first Pro Airs. I attached pics of the 93 and of the 206 (not that good of pic)
    Attached Files
    2008 Super Air 210 Team
    2004 AIR 206 Team
    1997 Ski Nautique 196
    1993 Ski Nautique SNOB

    Don\'t let yourself get old and say, \"I wish I would have.........\"!

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    • jsta281
      • Oct 2012
      • 266

      • Utah

      • 2009 Ski Nautique LE

      #17
      Thanks for the input, what speed did you pull at with the guy upside down? That is a bigger trick then anyone in my boat will likely do anytime soon. Also according to the 2004 brochure the 206 air would have the TSC2 hull right? Unless Nautique was still keeping it a secret on what boat had what hull during those years. :-)

      in the 206 with the 200 rear ballast and 1400 side ballast how many "people pounds" in the boat? Thanks for posting! Any other wake pictures from the 206 would be awesome.

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      • Quinner
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Apr 2004
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        #18
        Originally posted by jsta281 View Post
        That is a bigger trick then anyone in my boat will likely do anytime soon.
        Which is exactly why you do not need to create a bigger wake!!

        Here is the wake at about 40, right before we all dump the skiing assistants




        Here is about 22, notice the curl



        22 ish again



        29+



        disclaimer: no wake enhancing devices were used in the making of these pictures!!

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        • Surfsmith
          • Oct 2010
          • 73

          • IA

          • 11 Sport 200 03 206 LE 95 Sport Nautique

          #19
          sorry for the hijack.... Quinner, how do you deal with boat drivers like the one in the pic of the 4 skiers, coming up from behind?
          11 200V
          03 Nautique 206
          95 Sport Nautique

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          • Quinner
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            • Apr 2004
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            #20
            Same way I deal with surfers....shoot at em, lol

            That is one of the Girls dad, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed which should be obvious by his inboard brand choice, lol

            He eventually ended up alongside instead of behind

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            • TRBenj
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • May 2005
              • 1681

              • NWCT


              #21
              Like NCH2O posted, the Sport/Air (even the 98-02 boats with the newer deck with the sun pad) never got the TSC hull. They were all based on the "No Wake Zone" Ski Nautique (1990-1996) hull, just like the 1993-1997 Sports were. CC did put the TSC sticker on them, but thats the only TSC design element that they got. No C-shaped spray relief pockets, canoe shape, kink in the chine or keel pocket aft of the rudder.

              The 206 rode on the TSC2 hull through '05 (just like the 196) and got the gate (TSC3) as an option in '06. Ive ridden in and driven a few 206's, but havent skiied them... but based on my experience with the TSC2 and TSC3 196's (fixed lip vs. hydrogate) I would agree that the wakeboard wake is probably much improved on the TSC3 hull (gate up). The lip is much cleaner (sharper and more defined vs. round and washy with it down).
              1990 Ski Nautique
              NWCT

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              • Quinner
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                • Apr 2004
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                #22
                Timmy,

                So despite CC calling the hull TSC, it is not??

                Seriously though, if you made a clay imprint of the 93' sport hull bottom, your saying every sport/air (not Pro) through 02' would match that imprint?? Been a while since my 99' but I seem to recall the underside of the boat being like the photo in the brochure.

                One other clarification, the 206 is aka Ski Nautique Open Bow (SNOB)

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                • TRBenj
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 1681

                  • NWCT


                  #23
                  Originally posted by Quinner View Post
                  Timmy,

                  So despite CC calling the hull TSC, it is not??

                  Seriously though, if you made a clay imprint of the 93' sport hull bottom, your saying every sport/air (not Pro) through 02' would match that imprint?? Been a while since my 99' but I seem to recall the underside of the boat being like the photo in the brochure.

                  One other clarification, the 206 is aka Ski Nautique Open Bow (SNOB)
                  Correct... per Jody, they made a slight modification to the tapered chine in '98 (slightly more aggressive taper) on the Sports in order to improve handling in turns. Said he wouldnt have considered it a hull change (more like a tweak). It definitely didnt get any of the design elements that were introduced on the TSC.

                  I dont Ive ever seen where CC referred to the 206 as the SNOB... I only remember them using that moniker when the closed bow and open bow rode on the same hull.

                  Sport hull changes
                  1990 Ski Nautique
                  NWCT

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                  • jsta281
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 266

                    • Utah

                    • 2009 Ski Nautique LE

                    #24
                    Tim I completely believe you In regards to what hull each boat came with. It is weird to me that the 1999-2002 brochures all mention that the Pro Air's got the TWC hull, and at the same time none of these same brochures specifically identify what hull the Air Nautique came with. It is weird to me because it is clear the brochures are marketing the Pro Air making a "big deal" of the awesome wakeboard hull on the Pro Air, you would think they would do the same with the Air Nautique it being a wakeboard first boat??

                    None of the brochures for the Air Nautique mention what hull they come with until 2003 when the Air 206 specifically states the TSC2 hull.

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                    • Quinner
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Apr 2004
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                      #25
                      Timmy,

                      The original bill of sale, title and the coast guard plate by the throttle are a couple places I can think off where "Ski Nautique Open Bow" is used.
                      In some of the later models graphics options included "Ski Nautique", like Jason's boat as an example.

                      Jason,

                      Owned a 99' Air/Sport and it definitely came with TSC stickers, the 206 same thing, TSC2

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                      • jsta281
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 266

                        • Utah

                        • 2009 Ski Nautique LE

                        #26
                        Quinner,

                        The 99 brochure does not have an Air Nautique. It has;

                        21 ft Pro Air Nautique that says TWC hull (tower and ballast)

                        And

                        21 ft Sport Nautique with the hull being described as "you can naturally expect the same great riding hull and legendary wake characteristics befitting a Nautique."

                        Not sure what that means but if I were a customer back in 1999 I would assume they were 2 different hulls.

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                        • Quinner
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                          • Apr 2004
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                          #27
                          Technically you nailed it, the boat is a sport nautique, there was no "air nautique" per say, just an Air Graphics option. The Pro was it's own model with it's own hull. Looks like they are all TSC hulls unless noted as a TWC, all models look to have the sticker (just behind the forward cleat on the sport), wonder if those all say TSC except the Pro.

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                          • Chexi
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Apr 2025
                            • 2119

                            • Austin

                            • 2000 SAN

                            #28
                            As former owner of a 99 Air DD and an owner of a 2000 SAN, and one who researched this whole hull thing to death a while back, the Sports had the same hull as the super sports up through 1997. When they changed the rear deck on the Sports in 1998, they also changed the hull, slightly, but it did have a noticeable effect on the wake. I would say the 1998-1999 (and maybe later) wakes were not quite as good as the pre 1998 Sports for wakeboarding purposes. If you look at pictures of the hull, you can see the difference. The 98-99 Sport/Air hulls look sleeker.
                            Now
                            2000 SAN

                            Previously
                            1999 Air Nautique
                            1996 Tige Pre-2000
                            1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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                            • slob02
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 333

                              • Shawnee Lake Jamestown, Ohio

                              • 1993 SNOB 1997 196 2004 206 Team 2008 210 Team 2020 210

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jsta281 View Post
                              Thanks for the input, what speed did you pull at with the guy upside down? That is a bigger trick then anyone in my boat will likely do anytime soon. Also according to the 2004 brochure the 206 air would have the TSC2 hull right? Unless Nautique was still keeping it a secret on what boat had what hull during those years. :-)

                              in the 206 with the 200 rear ballast and 1400 side ballast how many "people pounds" in the boat? Thanks for posting! Any other wake pictures from the 206 would be awesome.
                              Yes, the 2004 206 had a TSC2 hull. It was their second best slalom boat at the time. I was great for the slalom course too. They basically just put a tower on it, changed the graphics, and put a small amount of ballast in the rear. I would guess that pic is at 21 mph. I would say there is probably 2,400 in the boat when that pic was taken, but you can do a back roll with that boat with no ballast at all if the rider is good enough.
                              Attached Files
                              2008 Super Air 210 Team
                              2004 AIR 206 Team
                              1997 Ski Nautique 196
                              1993 Ski Nautique SNOB

                              Don\'t let yourself get old and say, \"I wish I would have.........\"!

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