G23: Extra ballast with NSS

[JamesHawk101]

I'm planning of putting 1,100's bags in the rear lockers in the G23, on top of the stock ballast, and I was wondering if I would need another bag up in the bow to even the boat out enough to get on plane or if just filling the front ballast all the way would be fine. Thanks, I have the 450 for engine reference.

[robertsmcfarland]

what goes in back needs to be the same up front

[JamesHawk101]

So I would need 2,200 in the bow?

[ironj32]

Is this for surfing or wakeboarding? I'd assume surfing, since you said "with NSS". If it's wakeboarding, I don't think you'll get on plane no matter how much weight you put up front.

[ironj32]

If it is for wakeboarding, and assuming the 450 could push that much weight, if you put an extra 2200 in the back, you'd want to put about an extra 1100 in the bow. This keeps your rear:front ratio at about 63:37, which is the same ratio as stock ballast.

[nyryan2001]

I have 1100s plumbed in the trunk....that, along with all the stock ballast filled.... nothing extra in the bow, with the 2313 prop, you can only get it up to 8-9 mph. the prop shaft angle is terrible without putting anything in the bow.... it needs it. Essentially your HP is lifting the boat up vs pushing it forward the angle is so extreme. I will be out this weekend and I will experiment with weight in the bow and see how it does. Also, will be experimenting with different props.

[robertsmcfarland]

remember the weight in the back on the g23 is not like the the weight in the 210 or 230 ,the internal ballast runs almost to middle of the boat on each side so if you put extra weight in the back you are not matching the ratio to the stock thats why you need to match from the middle of the boat to the front,

[JamesHawk101]

It is for surfing with the Nss. From what you guys are saying maybe two 750s in the rear then? And 800 maybe 800 in the bow? Thanks for the advice keep it coming please!

[nyryan2001]

I too am in this for the surf primarily. we have pefect weather this weekend.... i will running thru all the different configurations and I will report back...

I am fairly confident you will be able to do approx 750-1000 in each rear trunk with 500-750 in the bow and be able to get it up to 12 MPH on the OEM 2313. I'd really like to keep it under 3800rpms when doing this so it"ll be a more pleasant atmosphere on the boat not so crazy extreme engine RPMs and loud. I want to put 125+hrs on this season, and want it to be fun and enjoyable.

Loooooong talk with the folks at ACME yesterday. undisputed, at least according to them... if you have the 2313... and looking for more low end torque you only have 2 choices. 2315 will be a "mild" increase in torque... and then the 2419. the 2419 is the most extreme torque prop that exists for a wakeboat hands down according to them. he said you will/might notice a subtle difference going from the 2313 to the 2315. he said you WILL notice a difference going from the 2313 to the 2419. I still have a 2249 coming in and will report that that performs with an empty and slammed boat, good thing wakeprops has a test and return policy.

[robertsmcfarland]

I have the 2249, to me with running about 2000 pounds over stock ballast, this prop works the best, (wake board speed), best hole shot, boat does not bog down in tight turns, and runs at the lower rpm by 500-800 over the 2315.

[ironj32]

I have the 2249, to me with running about 2000 pounds over stock ballast, this prop works the best, (wake board speed), best hole shot, boat does not bog down in tight turns, and runs at the lower rpm by 500-800 over the 2315.

They really say that the 2249 has a better hole shot than the 2313 and 2315?

Since the 2313 is about 4200rpm and the 2315 is 4600rpm, I would suspect that with the 2419 you are going to be running at about 5000 rpms while at wakeboarding speed.

[robertsmcfarland]

not sure if (ironj32) you were talking about my comment on the 2249 or 2419, but the 2249 runs at 4100-4200 rpm 23.5 full ballast and about 2000 pounds over stock.

[ironj32]

not sure if (ironj32) you were talking about my comment on the 2249 or 2419, but the 2249 runs at 4100-4200 rpm 23.5 full ballast and about 2000 pounds over stock.

I was wondering about the 2249's hole shot. I can definitely see it having better top end and running at lower rpms's than the others. Just would be surprised if it had a better hole shot with heavy weight than the 15x12's.

[robertsmcfarland]

never tried top end, so do not know if the g23 lost or gained mph; as for hole shot, did not use the stop watch, but i felt it pop up as quick if not quicker with a Constance acceleration to wake board speed, what impressed me was lower rpm at wake-board speed and in tight turns a good acceleration back to wake board speed which the other two props did not have, We wake board down some long fingers and at the end they get narrow so a tight turn with reduced speed is a must, the 2249 got the g23 back to speed the quickest with constant pull and acceleration.

[iamcdn]

Ryan, hope the testing is going well. Would love to see video if you have a chance.