G23 450 NSS Review

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  • ers906
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2010
    • 921

    • Phoenix AZ

    • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

    #31
    U planning on getting the NSS? It is on my boat that should be arriving in June, just wondering what the changes it may have on your weight calculations.
    Eric, Phoenix AZ

    G23 550 hp (finally here)
    2002 Super Air
    1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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    • nyryan2001
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 1993

      • Lake Anna


      #32
      Originally posted by ers906 View Post
      U planning on getting the NSS? It is on my boat that should be arriving in June, just wondering what the changes it may have on your weight calculations.
      ?? My boat already has NSS. its what this thread is all about.
      2019 G23 450
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      2013 G23 450
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      • ers906
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Feb 2010
        • 921

        • Phoenix AZ

        • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

        #33
        I guess I misunderstood, great write up. I have no doubt I will be doing my best to duplicate your set up.
        Eric, Phoenix AZ

        G23 550 hp (finally here)
        2002 Super Air
        1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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        • jrz1
          • Jan 2013
          • 215

          • Lake Norman, NC

          • 2013 G25 XS 550

          #34
          NY - our family is only starting to surf so beginners for sure. My G25 is at MLA and hopefully close to being wrapped up with the stereo. After reading your post, I'd thought about just going ahead and having him put 1100's in the rear lockers to avoid having to take the boat down there again. What's your take? Should I go a season with stock or just have him go ahead and have him do it while he's got it?

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          • nyryan2001
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 1993

            • Lake Anna


            #35
            If you are only having beginners.... Stock ballast will be just fine.

            Now...if you are gonna roll out with the guys once in a while 100% plumb them in. I can tell you, if you have a G25 sitting there at your dock capable of throwing belly-chest high 15-20ft waves.... You are gonna find your way in to surfing more with the boys and older kids.

            So yep on twin 1100s with overflows into the existing thru hulls with check valves plumbed via turn valves off the stock jabscos... Then have him plumb a 3rd removable 1100 triangle for the bow. Quick 1 hose setup for that, no overflow required.

            if I were you I'd have 2-4 30gal gas caddies lined up ready to keep things going!
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            • nyryan2001
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1993

              • Lake Anna


              #36
              Also wanted to add in ref to stock ballast surfing:

              we start surfing as soon as stock ballast is filled.... And the 1100 surf side continues to fill while we surf. Takes about 12 mins to fill that 1100 all the way up off the Jabsco. The wave starts good.... And gets better and better.
              2019 G23 450
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              • nyryan2001
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1993

                • Lake Anna


                #37
                For reference...Dennis back there is 6'1-6'2"


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                • jrz1
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 215

                  • Lake Norman, NC

                  • 2013 G25 XS 550

                  #38
                  Hah, come on. I hear the 550 sips gas! I'll probably have him go ahead at least with the 2 rear 1100s. He says the stock fly highs are perfect fits. Just waiting on the custom sub grill that nauty220 had on his coastal edition G23. I liked it so much, we contacted his installer and are getting one cut for my boat.

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                  • pSchwade
                    • May 2012
                    • 127

                    • Reno

                    • 07' 220 SANTE

                    #39
                    Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
                    Wakeslasher-- Surf vert and NCRS have a HUGE effect on the surf wave. Best results by a mile were at NCRS 5 and Surf Vert 0.

                    AlianceBJJ- yes there is some exhaust on port side. I surfed my son there this weekend, and it wasnt too bad. If winds are just right.... meaning the winds blow them back into the boat or into the rider it could be a problem. We need somthing along the lines of FAE.... but without being as extreme and crazy as FAE. Just a well designed 6" turn down.

                    I see you are into BJJ, Ive trained with GJJ and several UFC guys several times... GJJ... by far amazing folks that not only live up to the hype but are well beyond.


                    Surf Vert seting = NSS. Same Same. NCRS is entirely different setting.
                    maybe a tip will solve the problem - but it will probably need something like FAE or a total re-design using dual exhaust to fix the problem without sacrificing too much power.

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                    • wakeslasher69
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 169

                      • Durham NC

                      • 2016 G23 (550 HP)

                      #40
                      Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
                      For reference...Dennis back there is 6'1-6'2"


                      NY are you slammed in this pic? I see the surf side preference in your lean.

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                      • nyryan2001
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1993

                        • Lake Anna


                        #41
                        That's stock ballast + 1100 in the surfside trunk, also slightly turning to right. Somewhere around 11.6.
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                        • nyryan2001
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1993

                          • Lake Anna


                          #42
                          Continuing to dial it in, solid 4ft wave there:

                          Full 2900lbs OEM ballast
                          NCRS 5 and Surf Vert 0, 11.6mph
                          1100 in the surf side trunk.
                          400? or so in the other trunk
                          40gals fuel

                          4 day weekend coming up and water is getting warmer... finally into a shortie. this weekend we'll play with putting weight in the bow.

                          Who was it now that said the Gs arent surf boats???



                          2019 G23 450
                          2014 G23 550
                          2013 G23 450
                          2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                          2007 Yamaha AR210

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                          • axeman
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 387

                            • Dallas, TX

                            • 2016 Super Air Nautique 230

                            #43
                            W o w
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                            2014 Super Air Nautique 230 (sold)
                            2012 Super Air Nautique 230 (sold)
                            2008 Super Air Nautique 220 (sold)

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                            • iamcdn
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 337

                              • Penticton, Canada

                              • 2013 SANTE 210 with NSS

                              #44
                              Wow, nice wave Ryan. How is it when you weight evenly?

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                              • wakeslasher69
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 169

                                • Durham NC

                                • 2016 G23 (550 HP)

                                #45
                                Hey nyryan, there seems to be a fair bit of exhaust in the pic, do you notice it when back there? has anybody found turn down tips that are eliminating this?

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