What are people towing their G23 with?

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  • ers906
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Feb 2010
    • 921

    • Phoenix AZ

    • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

    #1

    What are people towing their G23 with?

    Just wondering if I am going to have to upgrade my truck when my boat arrives. I currently have a 2004 F-150 5.7L Triton (I think that is what it is called). What are other owners towing their G23 with?
    Eric, Phoenix AZ

    G23 550 hp (finally here)
    2002 Super Air
    1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp
  • swankster
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1052

    • DFW, TX

    • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

    #2
    I hope your truck works because that is what I have and plan to use.
    2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
    2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
    pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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    • robertsmcfarland
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Oct 2004
      • 544

      • Hyco

      • 2014 g23 550

      #3
      hummer2
      2013 G23 super air
      2010 230 super air
      2009 220 super air
      2008 210 super air
      2005 210 super air
      2003 calabria pro air

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      • JamesHawk101
        • Dec 2012
        • 224

        • Indian Rocks Beach

        • 2015 G23 Coastal

        #4
        We might use our Lexus Lx470
        2015 G23 Coastal Edition 450 NSS
        2013 G23 Coastal Edition 450 NSS

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        • ironj32
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • May 2011
          • 601

          • Lake Sarah (Independence), MN

          • 2018 SAN G23 XR550

          #5
          I have 2011 1/2 ton Silverado Crew Cab LTw/ the 6.2L engine and max tow package (bigger brakes, bigger rear axel, handeling/trailering suspension). Waiting until the 2014 3/4 ton Diesels come out...may move into one of those, if I like them. The 6.2L has plenty of torque and power. The reason I'm thinking of 3/4 ton, is because that is a lot of weight back there, and you can definitely feel it in the 1/2 ton.
          2018 SAN G23 XR550
          2015 SAN G23 XR550
          2014 SAN G23 XR550
          2013 SAN G23 XS550
          2013 SAN G23 ZR450
          2011 SAN 230
          2010 SAN 230
          2000 XStar
          www.mnspringride.com

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          • Laketexoma
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Dec 2004
            • 463

            • Lake Texoma (Texas side)

            • 2023 G23

            #6
            Ford F-450 (long hauls) and a Dodge 2500 Megacab with a 6.7 Cummins ( for around town hauls).
            2016 G23 H6
            2014 G23 550
            2013 G23 450 (Great boat)
            2008 230 Team-ZR6- ACME 1235 ( back in a Nautique again)
            2005 Malibu LSV 23 wakesetter (Real Dumb Mistake)
            2000 SAN ( Loved that boat)
            1998 Air Nautique ( our first boat)

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            • AllianceBJJ
              • Jun 2009
              • 347

              • Cedar Hill, Texas - Joe Pool Lake (Lynn Creek Marina)

              • 2013 G23 2012 SANTE 230 2011 SANTE 230 2010 SANTE 210 2006 SANTE 210

              #7
              GMC Sierra 2500HD Diesel

              Previously had a Yukon Denali with the 6.2. Did not like the way that it felt towing (particularly stopping), definitely tail wagging the dog. We have a couple of steep ramps around here and my tires would slide while backing down a slightly wet ramp. The G23 and trailer are at the very top of that vehicles towing capacity. The Sierra Denali truck does have a bit higher towing capacity than the SUV.
              Current Nautique: 2013 G23
              Previous Nautiques: 2012 SANTE 230, 2011 SANTE 230, 2010 SANTE 210, 2006 SANTE 210

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              • BrennanK
                • Feb 2009
                • 348

                • Hopkins, MN

                • 1997 Ski Nautique

                #8
                Originally posted by ironj32 View Post
                Waiting until the 2014 3/4 ton Diesels come out...may move into one of those, if I like them.
                If you are referring to GM, the 2014 diesels will be a carry over. They will still have the LML and the current 2013 body style. The refresh for the HD lineup is in 2015, but they will still have the LML. If you're wondering, the LML is the 2011+ engine.

                I wouldn't want to try and brake a G23 with anything less then a 3/4 ton. Just for my safety and everyone else around me.
                1997 Ski Nautique

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                • bharris6
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 83

                  • peachtree city

                  • 2007 Super Air Nautique 220 TE

                  #9
                  I have a 2004 f150 as well and have pulled close to 6000lbs with it before. It will pull it and its not to bad, just be easy with it. Is it 2 or 4wheel drive? If only two the only problem I would see is pulling it out of the water and your truck tires start spinning. How far do you plan on pulling it?

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                  • Zach@n3
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 736

                    • Indianapolis Indiana

                    • 1986 2001 ski nautique 68 correct craft skylark

                    #10
                    There is my 10 1/2 ton Ram loaded with a 550 G25. I moved every g boat we had at the show that day with my truck and was pretty impressed. It has the higher 3.92 ratio. The journey back to the shop is about 6 miles uphill at 60mph. It never downshifted going up hill and maintained speed just fine. Flat long hauls wouldn't be an issue but If I had the cash to drop on a G boat it would be towed with a 6.7 2500 Ram. The tri axle trailers have very aggressive brakes so it stopped like normal. The tandem works the truck brakes a bit more.



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                    • Zach@n3
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 736

                      • Indianapolis Indiana

                      • 1986 2001 ski nautique 68 correct craft skylark

                      #11
                      Fyi that truck is 2wd and has a way higher rating than a 4x4. 4x4 is in the 8k range and the 2wd is just under 11k rating.
                      [EMAIL="Zach@n3boatworks.com"]Zach@n3boatworks.com[/EMAIL]

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                      • nyryan2001
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1993

                        • Lake Anna


                        #12
                        Originally posted by ers906 View Post
                        Just wondering if I am going to have to upgrade my truck when my boat arrives. I currently have a 2004 F-150 5.7L Triton (I think that is what it is called). What are other owners towing their G23 with?
                        Im not tracking a 5.7L engine for ford that year.... likely you had the 300hp 5.4L? if so, yes thats a little on the light side...

                        Tundra. 5.7L 390 HP... averages a meager 6-9mph while towing, and can maintain 70-75mph on flat highway reasonably and comfortably without down****fing unless you hit decent hills. I can get 8-10mpg if I use quality pure gas and feather the pedal. If I hammer it and in a hurry it I am at 5-6mpg ish. It IS a heavy tow and you DO feel decent kickback from the load when hitting bumps and such. with the 2 axel trailer I would decribe the braking as normal/adequate....it IS a heavy tow with the Tundra and you know it. You definitly need 4x4, as the rear tires are wet pulling it out and you will spin wheels even on a reasonable ramp incline pulling 8000lbs out of the drink. I would rate it a solid B for such a heavy load. If I could do a quick and easy swap... on great terms with trade, i'd jump to a GM or Ford diesel now.

                        2019 G23 450
                        2014 G23 550
                        2013 G23 450
                        2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                        2007 Yamaha AR210

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                        • bharris6
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 83

                          • peachtree city

                          • 2007 Super Air Nautique 220 TE

                          #13
                          The 2004 fords are 5.4 tritons. You don't need to automatically jump to the diesel if you don't want to. The newer fords and Chevys have 6 speed transmissions as opposed to the 2004 3 speed and have brake assist with manual over ride for exhaust breaking. Which will be able to pull and stop your boat just about as anywhere.

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                          • ers906
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 921

                            • Phoenix AZ

                            • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

                            #14
                            You are right, it is the 5.4. With the lighter trucks and towing capacity being close to maxed out, can you upgrade the brake pads etc to make it safer (for the time being because it seems like a truck upgrade is in the future). When I plan to upgrade, it will likely be a used diesel that I use as a tow vehicle and work truck for my home depot trips. I will likely buy a more efficient daily driver. Any suggestions? I am partial to an older Ford with the 7.X L power stroke, but open to anything. Just need it to be able to carry about five people, however, with the larger boat, it is likely that there will be more people on the water with us (therefore I will not need to squeeze everyone in mine)
                            Eric, Phoenix AZ

                            G23 550 hp (finally here)
                            2002 Super Air
                            1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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                            • BrennanK
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 348

                              • Hopkins, MN

                              • 1997 Ski Nautique

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ers906 View Post
                              Any suggestions? I am partial to an older Ford with the 7.X L power stroke, but open to anything. Just need it to be able to carry about five people, however, with the larger boat, it is likely that there will be more people on the water with us (therefore I will not need to squeeze everyone in mine)
                              Just get something pre-2007 to avoid the emissions systems that require regeneration (DPF - diesel particulate filter). If you go Ford I would get a 7.3 1999-2003. If you go GM avoid the 2001-2004, they had issues with injectors. The 2004.5-2005 are good engines, but the 2006-2007 (LBZ) engines are known as the best pre emissions Duramax. They have the 6 speed Allison to achieve a higher unloaded MPG in addition to other benefits I myself own a 2005 Duramax and my buddy owns a 1999 7.3 with a manual ZF-6 that I drive frequently. I like the 7.3, but in stock form they are not the best for daily driving. They are pretty loud, ride kinda rough, and are slow. They are great if you are going to use them for what they were designed for, towing. I know nothing about Dodge trucks.
                              1997 Ski Nautique

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