2008 210 surf wake help please

[scottb7]

Friend and I tried surfing first time yesterday. minnesota water temp about 48 with the good old 3/2 sahara dry suits. anyways. It was fun to try and my friend started getting the hang of it but.

The wake was pretty bad, washed out almost completely, not clean at all.

I had pulled the hard tanks last year and have 1100's in the back. I had surf side (port) filled 2 button press cycles and belly full. I understand that more weight in middle front will length the pocket, but how do I clean it up? I have an extra locker sac i can piggy back to belly later...

We were going about 10 mph. It was just the 2 of us in the boat. We each weigh probably 180. So I was on starboard side driving while he was riding port. I had the hydrogate pulled down to ramp vertical position, is that right cause we had just gotten done wakeboarding. is that right? does it matter?

I think 1100 bag was maybe 1/2 to 2/3 full. I would have thought it was 2/3 with 2 presses but it did not look that full. Air intake was still a fair ways from the water. No fear of taking on water.

Ya think I just needed to fill the 1100 port sac more?

Thanks

[RideButter]

My 210 washes out with too much weight in the back corner and nothing out front. Add a little more bow weight and it should clean up nicely. The wake gate is a nice fine tuning tool for wake surfing. If its washing out a little too much you can push the bow of the boat down a little by pushing that wake gate forward.

[ES]

Agree with RideButter, put some more weight upfront. On our 2010 210 SANTE, we have hard tank plus 750 lbs bag in rear corner, belly full and kids sitting up front. Wake gate is move to 1/4 from the back position. I should probably add more weight upfront, but wake is very surfable this way...

[HS]

Without that aft sac full what you might have been seeing is too slow of a speed. As little as a 0.5 mph increase can make a big difference; take a few minutes and test with different increments of added speed -- it will all need fine tuning based on total ballast and passenger load.

(If the sac was full and you had a lot of wash, I'd have also said you need more weight up front.)

We run about 10.5 to 10.7 and my light weight riders (120 lbs.) go 11.0 - 11.3 (I piggy back 750s and run the arrow sac in the locker plus 200# of pop under the surf side bow seat.)

You're right that more weight up front will lengthen the pocket, and will help clean it up a bit as well.

I don't recall the setting for HG -- maybe middle -- I will check soon, I hope, boat is getting serviced now!

A passenger or two helps for weight in the middle (pop products are handy for this).

For the best looking wave search for the post by n3 (he gives his ballast formula as well).

[Chad52]

Maybe the key thing here is that you said you are trying to surf the port side. Due to the prop rotation, the starboard side is going to be the best side for setting up a surf wake on an 08 210. You can do it on the port side, but it will never be as nice and clean as the starboard side...

[nyryan2001]

What I call the "Golden Standard"

1100 maxed out in the surfside trunk, all surfside ballast full.

750 on or under the seats surf side

front tank 1/2 - 2/3 and Fuel tank 1/2 - 2/3. these are not full because at full they fight to level you back out.

When I hear "clean up the wave" with traditional wakesurfing...usually attributed to not enough gansta lean and weight in the rear surf corner. You gotta gouge the water with the surf corner, and to do that you should have a hard lean on your surfside... absent NSS. get everything heavy on your surfside.

10.6-11.8 mph


If your wave is big and tall but lacks length, add weight to the bow.

prop rotation will make the boat favor one side over the other for surf.... but that can be overcome by adding more weight on the surfside.

[Sac Surfer]

I would speed up 11.2 mph or so, also you didn't mention your lake depth. You def wanna fill the back locker on the surf side all the way and keep moving the weight around mid-ship/surf side and up front. Have a buddy move from the passenger to up front, vary your speed and fill your fat sacs.

A picture or video would help us get your more dialed in as well.

[prairiethunder]

X 2 on water depth. 20ft makes the wake less finicky behind any boat. As it gets closer to 10ft it will wash out no matter what the set up is....

[Bevan]

Started surfing last summer so by no means an expert on this. This set up worked for us - port and belly tanks full, 450 wedge sac on seat, 10.5mph and HG in the middle. Wave was pretty clean and had good push! I'm sure with more experimentation we could get it much bigger and longer? Here's a lil vid, only 3 peeps in boat and wave was bigger than it appears.. watch in HD. Cheers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlMlpbWiE4E

[Bevan]

^^^Feel free to chime in on my set up also... definately up for any tips for a better wave^^^

[scottb7]

ok, not to change the subject...but is my thread so what the heck...and because i am such a darn noob. I have this board and we love it no problem getting up etc. But do I want all 3 fins on as noobs. I think we do, and i have only ridden it one day. But it seemed hard to cut in to the wave. I can easily ride it down the wave but not so easy to get back up it. Keep practicing with all 3 on or take off center one?

http://www.evo.com/outlet/wake-surfb...f_48_Image.jpg

[acs220]

You should definitely keep all three in. The only reason to take any out would be for spin tricks. You probably need to have more speed built up to be able to cut harder up the face. If your not going faster than the boat you won't have enough momentum to get from the bottom to the top and cut. We have two boards that we use. One is the Ronix Koal 5'6" and the other is a Phaze 5 Oogle 5'0". The Koal is for small waves (cruising and cutting). The Oogle is for air's, spins, and shoves.

Your Cortez is kinda in between the two that we have. It's a good all around board.

ok, not to change the subject...but is my thread so what the heck...and because i am such a darn noob. I have this board and we love it no problem getting up etc. But do I want all 3 fins on as noobs. I think we do, and i have only ridden it one day. But it seemed hard to cut in to the wave. I can easily ride it down the wave but not so easy to get back up it. Keep practicing with all 3 on or take off center one?

http://www.evo.com/outlet/wake-surfb...f_48_Image.jpg

[stjoe210]

I was wondering if anyone thinks i can make a decent size surf wake with straight twin 540s (one in locker and one the seat?) Which straight line set up would you use? Im trying to get a wake for surfing since im going to be spending my time mostly surfing with about 40 percent wakeboarding. Thanks for your input im just trying to order everything up online right the first time.

[HS]

I think for a 210, if a large wave is desired, you'd want 1,000 total on the aft corner, made up of factory or sac or both, and approx. another 1,000 in either the belly or the bow, combo of factory or sac or both. But if you have that much in people weight, you could get by with 540x2. Just my opinion.

[iamcdn]

I wonder what this guy was running and if he had the NSS. Too bad the comments are disabled.