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  • DRAGON88
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jul 2003
    • 529

    • Eugene, Oregon

    • 1999 Sport Naqutique 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

    Break in time/ safe to ride behind?

    I was thinking it would seem to be around 5 hrs break in time, and then it would be safe to pull someone. Then somewhere around 10 hrs it's safe to run ballast. Does this sound about correct? Or should we be putting 10 hrs on it before riding behind it? What did you guys follow?
    How about \"Chales\"?

    RIP Nikolai (\'05 SANTE) 5/23/05 - 4/30/06
  • TwinTip
    • May 2004
    • 294



    #2
    RE: Break in time/ safe to ride behind?

    I put in between 5 to 6 hours before pulling someone. Repeat the procedure shown on the manual and try to vary the speed occasionally.

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    • bkhallpass
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Apr 2005
      • 1407

      • Discovery Bay, CA

      • 2001 Super Air Nautique (Current) 1998 Ski Nautique (former) 1982 Ski Nautique (Current)

      #3
      If I recall, the manual says 20. On my first nautique I followed
      the manual. Then, talked to dozens of folks who only ran 5-10 with
      no problems. So, on the second boat, I did 8 before pulling.
      What can I say, I'm conservative with $50K boats.

      I put factory ballast in even during the breakin (just playing around with
      the tanks) . I didn't see the harm, as
      it weighs no more than the boat is rated for, and is no heavier than
      a few fat guys in the boat.

      Regards,

      BKH
      2001 Super Air

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      • AbunDiga909
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Sep 2003
        • 2470

        • St. Louis, MO


        #4
        I wouldn't pull a slalomer all the time but if your out on your new boat having fun, keep in mind to vary the speed, have your joy rides and I wouln't worry about a few small pulls. Maybe let the smallest people go, but not for long times...
        [color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]

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        • DAWG
          • Apr 2005
          • 19



          #5
          Talking with the experts at DIM the PCM engineers are telling them to break the engines in the way tou intend to use the boat. I have just went through the 10hrs the manual spells out with 5-6 barefoot runs mixed in and the engine is rock-solid.
          DAWG
          99SS

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          • DRAGON88
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jul 2003
            • 529

            • Eugene, Oregon

            • 1999 Sport Naqutique 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

            #6
            Interesting, the manual doesn't say anything about when its safe to pull people. All it mentions regarding engine time is "Accelerating from idle speed to wide open
            assists in seating the piston rings. This cycle can be repeated from
            time to time during the first five hours of operation." interesting.

            Originally posted by 2005 Air Nautiques owners manual
            Break In Procedure
            Make sure all your passengers are properly seated before starting
            the break in procedure. After the engine is thoroughly warmed up
            and you have driven the boat into a large open area, advance the
            throttle to wide open until the maximum rpms are reached. Do not
            exceed 5,000 rpm. Reduce the throttle to 2,800-3,000 rpms and
            cruise at or below this speed for 30 minutes. Reduce the speed to
            idle, advance the throttle to wide open and operate at that speed
            for one minute; reduce to the previous cruising speed for a few
            minutes and repeat. Accelerating from idle speed to wide open
            assists in seating the piston rings. This cycle can be repeated from
            time to time during the first five hours of operation. DO NOT
            operate engine at full throttle for longer than 1-2 minutes.
            How about \"Chales\"?

            RIP Nikolai (\'05 SANTE) 5/23/05 - 4/30/06

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            • jeffsv211
              • Aug 2004
              • 161

              • Fort Wayne, IN

              • 2005 SV211 2008 220 --- current as of 1May \'09

              #7
              I made it 6 hrs... as stated above, it says that this procedure "CAN" be used during the 1st five hours. It says nothing afterwards... everything is based on RPMs.. pulling just decreases the speed for a given RPM (or higher RPM to maintain a given speed, however you want to look at it).. the key is to not stick to a given RPM all the time. With all the different watesport speeds (barefoot, slalom, wakeboard, etc.) you can't help but vary speeds, just no marathon runs around the lake!
              2005 SV211
              2008 220 <--- current as of 1May \'09

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              • Kenv
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Jan 2004
                • 1070

                • Texas

                • 2021 G23 Previous 2015 G21 2010 226 2005 226 2000 Super Air

                #8
                Dragon,

                I've got an 05 with the 5.7 330hp. I wakeboard with it at 5hrs but did not fill the ballast yet. Based on how these engines are built now, I'm with Dawg - most engine experts would say go strong out of the box. I would think waiting 10 hours would be Really conservative to wait to pull any kind of skier. I just decided mentally that 5 hrs was my number.
                Good luck.

                Ken

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                • FatBoy
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 756

                  • Eastern North Carolina


                  #9
                  You know the question that comes to mind is if the motors need no riders for the first ever how many hours, then why do dealers allow people to do demo rides behind new boats? I have been told that you need to break a motor in the way you are going to run it. Every new boat I have had I pull skiers right off the bat and have never had a prob. I say, drive it like you stole it.
                  Life is Short, Live it!
                  http://www.teamcarolina.us/index.htm

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                  • ag4ever
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1180



                    #10
                    My dealer has a ski school, and has a couple boats they uses a demo models that are the ski school boats. One is a 197 or a 216, and the other is a 210, so almost all demo rides are behind those boats.

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                    • FatBoy
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 756

                      • Eastern North Carolina


                      #11
                      Thats good but I know if you are serious about buying a boat you can demo behind anything they have on the lot. I have done it and have seen it done. I am sure this is done everywhere, I have never heard of anyone being turned down for a demo ride/pull cause the motor was not broke in.
                      Life is Short, Live it!
                      http://www.teamcarolina.us/index.htm

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                      • wrollema
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 18



                        #12
                        After building several race engine and working with engines for a long time I have concluded the following; weight and the type of job the engine performs is not important, what is important is to vary the rpm of the engine ( varies the pressure on the piston rings) and not sustaining WOT for an extended period. WOT for extended periods (were the engine obtains max RPM) inhibits the engine ability to seal the piston rings Pulling a skier is relatively mild work on an engine compared to the actually performance and capability of the engine. Note: in typical slalom run the engine rpms are varied quiet often; sustained RPM's for 2 to 5 min will not inhibit the ability for the engine's ability to seal the piston rings (excluding WOT were Max RPM are attained). This what I would recommend; Warm engine up to operating temperature and go for a 15 min ride were you continually accelerating and decelerating then use the boat as you would normally do refraining from sustaining WOT were maxim RPM’s are attained.

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                        • breakz77
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 134

                          • Discovery Bay, CA


                          #13
                          I have an 05 and started riding behind it with a little over 6 hours. All seems to be good. Even the dealer said it really wouldn't hurt anything with only a few hours on it.

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