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  • perry386
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jun 2012
    • 560

    • gadsden AL

    • Super Air nautique 236

    #1

    Ballast setup question

    Hey guys, Lately I have been noticing it more and more difficult to just go wake-to-wake. Every time I end up going out into the flats which is just painful and not very fun. I am still getting good height (as shown in the pic) but just going to far out. I was thinking that maybe I should steepen the wake a bit. Is that the right answer or is something else involved? Anyways, I would like to know what you guys are running for ballast in a 230. Right now I'm just running full factory ballast at 75' but am debating stepping it up to factory ballast plus a 400 sac on each side halfway full.
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    It is a little blurry but you can kinda see me and the wake.
  • slob02
    • Sep 2003
    • 333

    • Shawnee Lake Jamestown, Ohio

    • 1993 SNOB 1997 196 2004 206 Team 2008 210 Team 2020 210

    #2
    Lengthen the rope a section.
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    • perry386
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jun 2012
      • 560

      • gadsden AL

      • Super Air nautique 236

      #3
      Originally posted by slob02 View Post
      Lengthen the rope a section.
      Would I be able to keep the same speed? I am right at the edge of rideable wake where its at. I'm afraid that if I go back any then I will be behind the good part of the wake.

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      • northwestwater
        • Jul 2012
        • 64

        • steilacoom lake, WA

        • 2000 calabria 2004 SV 211 2006 220 2009 230 409 hp 2013 G23 550 hp NSS

        #4
        hi Perry! i think you look good out there! i agree with slob 2 but, also might add that if you decide to try to add fat sacs in the rear only, the 230 will start to porpoise every time you hit a little bump in the water. you would probably have to add a sac in the ski locker and also a little weight under the bow seats to quiet the boat down. i had to have a fair amount of weight in the bow to keep the boat from bouncing down the lake in my past 230. i had my dealer plumb the sacs to my hard tanks so i didn't have to fill all the tanks separately each time i went out. oh, and i also found the 230 to be fairly sensitive from port to starboard, which is also a good reason to to have it plumbed in so you can make fine adjustments once you start riding.

        have a great summer!
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        • perry386
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jun 2012
          • 560

          • gadsden AL

          • Super Air nautique 236

          #5
          Thanks for the help guys. I've always looked at as: Weight in the back=Vert, weight in the front=Ramp. I guess that's not exactly the case. I might just try adding more weight everywhere in the boat or speeding up to 22-22.5 and lengthening the rope out to 80'.

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          • s_kelley2000
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 1575
            • Fort Meadow Recevoir

            • Mass

            • 2012 Super Air Nautique 230 1999 Nautique Super Sport with 502 Python (for Sale)

            #6
            Originally posted by perry386 View Post
            I've always looked at as: Weight in the back=Vert, weight in the front=Ramp. I guess that's not exactly the case.
            In general that thought process holds true but if you get too much in the back it will make the boat porpoise and handle very poorly. If you like the shape of your wake then your best bet it add weight evenly to keep the shape the same and make it bigger and firmer. Backing your rope out to 80' might widen it enough so you are still landing on the down slope instead of the flats. If you are riding a continuous rocker board you might want to try out a 3-stage board that will give you a more abrupt straight up pop.
            Shawn

            2012 Blue Metal Flake SAN 230

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            • perry386
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jun 2012
              • 560

              • gadsden AL

              • Super Air nautique 236

              #7
              Originally posted by s_kelley2000 View Post
              In general that thought process holds true but if you get too much in the back it will make the boat porpoise and handle very poorly. If you like the shape of your wake then your best bet it add weight evenly to keep the shape the same and make it bigger and firmer. Backing your rope out to 80' might widen it enough so you are still landing on the down slope instead of the flats. If you are riding a continuous rocker board you might want to try out a 3-stage board that will give you a more abrupt straight up pop.
              Ok thanks, will try a linger rope next time I'm out. Can't exactly go and buy a new board right now as I JUST bought this LF Trip and so far am really enjoying it other than this one thing.

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