2014 News?

[bradw]

new 210/230 stuff up

[Clibka]

Not trying to be too hard of a hater here, but the things that I get the most compliments on (and subsequently some of my favorite aspects of my 2012 210) are gone from this new version ... the graphics, the large sundeck, and the seating setup?!?!?

-I think the seating took a HUGE step backwards . . . I MIGHT understand getting rid of the reversible seat in lieu of the transom walk-thru (I don't ... that was a bad decision, it doesn't look like there was a reason you couldn't have both other than they went with more of a G or 230 engine hatch) But why would you take away the pop up observer seat?!?!? So ... somehow potential 2014 210 owners lost the ability for 6 ppl to comfortably watch the action behind the boat, so that people can get in and out easier? If you want it to be a true walk thru you have to find a place to store that insert cushion ... "Hold on, can you please hop up so I can get the insert cushion out to make this back into a seat now that everyone has made it in without stepping on any vinyl?", AND they have to find a place to store a "removable lean back" if they want the full bench

-The graphics remind me of a lesser manufacturers design package. EVERYONE loves my "Eagle." I get a huge kick out of people yelling about that across the water. I think they phoned this in . . . (copyright for my quick photoshop remains with whomever owns it)


-A few more observations: I didn't see an insert to make that back deck a full sun pad . . . I hope they have it, but even on the g's and the 230's I rarely see anyone use the insert, that's one of my favorite lounge spots that seems to now be extinct, no one likes to snuggle 4 feet away from your lady on the other pad. I don't know if it is for sure gone, but it doesn't look like there is any ski coffin now? That doesn't make sense to me ...

Lastly, "Pro" wake package? for a total of 1750?! and this is the marketing BS they put on the picture: "Pro Wake/Surf Ballast with Storage Trays - Upgrade to the optional ballast for additional weight while keeping the cockpit clutter free and increasing the exceptionally sized surf wave." Exceptionally sized SURF WAVE?!?!? when did this become a surf boat? I think Nautique is selling out its heritage on the 210 as THE wake boat. (Storage trays are legit tho . . . )

Now for the optimism to come forth:

I believe nautiqe is repositioning the 210 as the "Budget family do all boat" possibly taking place of the sport 200 (Don't get mad, just a guess) making room for a g21/22 around the beginning of Jan. 2014. In doing so I see a couple benefits:

-You can still put NSS on 2012+ 210's largely making a 12' or 13' superior to a 14' in my humble opinion (Except for blue tooth, that is a legit option) OH WAIT ... http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...ight=bluetooth If you own a 12' or 13' I think we hit the "golden age of a 210" and we are in a good position.

-I think as people have stated before, if they do reduce the cost of this new 210 and position it as less of a hard core wake boat to make room for a G of similar size, you will see the value of the real 210's stay high (Especially considering the seating layout changes) Just as the value of a 2007 210 with the engine bump is considered a less valuable boat, you will see the good seat layout 210's value remain high. And even with an MSRP reduction on these 2014's people will still be paying low to mid $80's for a 2014 which will make my 2012 with better seating look like an awesome deal at $75k

In closing . . . I apologize if I rambled, it's early and I had a lot of thoughts. But Nautique as a brand has impressed me since I was 14, I am sure they will continue to do so and give me a reason to buy more of them, I just want my next to say "G" somewhere on it

[lucky7t]

[OKWAKEBDR]

link?

You can find it under the #Nautique hashtag. Jeff may not appreciate it getting posted here, so I'm going to let you search for it.

Graphics are much more understated on the G. I like the new Blue - especially as an accent color.

[CradGen2]

Tommy - What are you ordering. You have all the information on the 2014. You going G23? Being you were looking for advise on the below, PN members are good at pick colors too.

[tommy1005]

I don't know yet. Dealer is supposed to have a new 230 this week that is already sold, but in going to drive up there to look at it as soon as it gets there. I really like the G23, but it is a big boat an I'm not sure I want something that big. 230 will be much easier to tow and deal with on a daily basis.

I think at this point it's X30 or 230 simply because they are a little smaller than the G. Luckily my dealer sells both so I can look at them side by side.

[slob02]

Personally got to see the 2014 210 and 230 at the Nationals in West Chester, Ohio........The pics on here do not do it justice at all!! They are 100x better looking in person. The yellow 210 was perfect on the water. The used it to pull wakeskate!! Good Job Nautique (Correct Craft!!)!!

[jonsquatch]

Personally got to see the 2014 210 and 230 at the Nationals in West Chester, Ohio........The pics on here do not do it justice at all!! They are 100x better looking in person. The yellow 210 was perfect on the water. The used it to pull wakeskate!! Good Job Nautique (Correct Craft!!)!!

I have to respectfully disagree, while the yellow boat looked better in the water than off it was still hideous to me, it did look like the wake was as good as expected. The dove gray on the 230 looked less hideous in person but it was still very plain, one might think they would use less polarizing colors for the launch I have seen better looking ones already the red flake and blue flake with the black and white interior and bottom look way better in my opinion. The Orange and Charcoal G23 they used was amazing looking, in fact the rest of the boats there were very nice to look at, even though I would never ever ever buy the purple G (high school colors... meh) my wife liked it a lot.

The thing I really didn't like about the 210/230 was that the side stripes are molded into the hull... so unless they get new molds that's the style we are going to see for a couple of years. Also on the 210 at least they stole from the interior space to make the unnecessary steps on the rear deck now that the height is much lower. Overall its a much smaller less well utilized interior than the last generation, fewer usable cup holders (although there are 6 in the bow now, how many people sit there?) and fewer rear facing places to sit and watch the action; it seems to me like a conscious re-positioning in the line up. I love how easy it is to get to the oil filter and tranny and v-drive, but with the extra ballast even with the notch in the side panels it looks like it will be a pain to get to front for the fuel filters etc. The great thing is I have no desire to upgrade, at least until a G21 comes out.

[Clibka]

I have to respectfully disagree, while the yellow boat looked better in the water than off it was still hideous to me, it did look like the wake was as good as expected. The dove gray on the 230 looked less hideous in person but it was still very plain, one might think they would use less polarizing colors for the launch I have seen better looking ones already the red flake and blue flake with the black and white interior and bottom look way better in my opinion. The Orange and Charcoal G23 they used was amazing looking, in fact the rest of the boats there were very nice to look at, even though I would never ever ever buy the purple G (high school colors... meh) my wife liked it a lot.

The thing I really didn't like about the 210/230 was that the side stripes are molded into the hull... so unless they get new molds that's the style we are going to see for a couple of years. Also on the 210 at least they stole from the interior space to make the unnecessary steps on the rear deck now that the height is much lower. Overall its a much smaller less well utilized interior than the last generation, fewer usable cup holders (although there are 6 in the bow now, how many people sit there?) and fewer rear facing places to sit and watch the action; it seems to me like a conscious re-positioning in the line up. I love how easy it is to get to the oil filter and tranny and v-drive, but with the extra ballast even with the notch in the side panels it looks like it will be a pain to get to front for the fuel filters etc. The great thing is I have no desire to upgrade, at least until a G21 comes out.

+20!!!!

[Bevan]

I have to respectfully disagree, while the yellow boat looked better in the water than off it was still hideous to me, it did look like the wake was as good as expected. The dove gray on the 230 looked less hideous in person but it was still very plain, one might think they would use less polarizing colors for the launch I have seen better looking ones already the red flake and blue flake with the black and white interior and bottom look way better in my opinion. The Orange and Charcoal G23 they used was amazing looking, in fact the rest of the boats there were very nice to look at, even though I would never ever ever buy the purple G (high school colors... meh) my wife liked it a lot.

The thing I really didn't like about the 210/230 was that the side stripes are molded into the hull... so unless they get new molds that's the style we are going to see for a couple of years. Also on the 210 at least they stole from the interior space to make the unnecessary steps on the rear deck now that the height is much lower. Overall its a much smaller less well utilized interior than the last generation, fewer usable cup holders (although there are 6 in the bow now, how many people sit there?) and fewer rear facing places to sit and watch the action; it seems to me like a conscious re-positioning in the line up. I love how easy it is to get to the oil filter and tranny and v-drive, but with the extra ballast even with the notch in the side panels it looks like it will be a pain to get to front for the fuel filters etc. The great thing is I have no desire to upgrade, at least until a G21 comes out.

I wouldn't be in a hurry to upgrade your boat either. Byerly 210 is the sickest one ever!

[slob02]

I do like my reversible seat on my 2008 210 and think it will be missed. Did you notice the 2014 holds a lot more factory ballast that the previous ones? I think it is like 1,000lbs more??

[acs220]

I do like my reversible seat on my 2008 210 and think it will be missed. Did you notice the 2014 holds a lot more factory ballast that the previous ones? I think it is like 1,000lbs more??

But I think you have to get NSS to get the increased ballast. Maybe someone else can chime in, but in my experience with both 08 and 12 210 that is too much weight in the stern for a good wake. My boat used to porpoise with same config as CC is going to offer. I had to add weight to the front. Was good for surfing though.

[Nordicron]

But I think you have to get NSS to get the increased ballast. Maybe someone else can chime in, but in my experience with both 08 and 12 210 that is too much weight in the stern for a good wake. My boat used to porpoise with same config as CC is going to offer. I had to add weight to the front. Was good for surfing though.

Yeah with all that stern weight and the tiny 1579 prop I don't see how that thing will even get on plane!

[DanielC]

Wake surfers do not plane out their boat. They just plow at displacement speed.

[scottb7]

I have 0 problems with my stock prop...