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  • FEVB
    • Jun 2017
    • 68

    • Brazil

    • G23 2019 450

    I would think twice buying a G with all these casualties out there with no clear solution

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    • Kenv
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 1070

      • Texas

      • 2021 G23 Previous 2015 G21 2010 226 2005 226 2000 Super Air

      Heard tonight that Nautique is working on a fix for the shaft....but in the meantime, this is a temporary fix to catch the prop. Currently it is only available for the 450 "Horse" motor.......

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      • wakerider107
        • Jul 2011
        • 271

        • south


        Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
        I would guess they discussed it at length and believe they are better off both reputation, sales and financially to just fix them as they go and not speak to it publicly, and not recall, or put out a service bulletin...

        Unfortunately they are probably right on all 3 counts...ethically probably not...
        Agree 100%.
        They did put out a service bulletin in 2015, but there has not been any updated one since.
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        2012 SANTE 230

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        • dlowry81
          • May 2014
          • 11

          • Tulsa, OK


          Originally posted by scottb7 View Post
          I would guess they discussed it at length and believe they are better off both reputation, sales and financially to just fix them as they go and not speak to it publicly, and not recall, or put out a service bulletin...

          Unfortunately they are probably right on all 3 counts...ethically probably not...

          I'm willing to bet you're 100% right. My guess is they used the formula Ed Norton used in the movie Fight Club dealing with auto recalls.

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          • surroundsound64
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 2147

            • Longview, TX

            • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

            Originally posted by Kenv View Post
            Heard tonight that Nautique is working on a fix for the shaft....but in the meantime, this is a temporary fix to catch the prop. Currently it is only available for the 450 "Horse" motor....... Click image for larger version

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            That’s actually not a bad idea.
            2018 SAN 230
            1981 Ski Nautique
            Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
            Sold - 2000 SAN

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            • FEVB
              • Jun 2017
              • 68

              • Brazil

              • G23 2019 450

              Being under investigation since 2015....no
              easy solution

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              • FEVB
                • Jun 2017
                • 68

                • Brazil

                • G23 2019 450

                Being under investigation since 2015....no
                easy solution

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                • Big Dawgg
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 1

                  • Texas

                  • 2018 G23

                  1st let me say I am a new G23 owner. I have just under 50 hours on the boat and couldn't be happier with the performance. I am chiming in about the shaft issue as my friend is the one who posted the last pictures of a broken shaft this past Saturday. I took the boat to the dealer yesterday and found out today that their other location has indeed seen several others break since the updated shafts were installed. They are obviously going to repair under warranty for me. Definitely not what I expected to see happen back when I was purchasing the boat in May. It is disheartening for this type of issue on a new boat, but I still think these boats are superior.

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                  • FEVB
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 68

                    • Brazil

                    • G23 2019 450

                    Being under investigation since 2015....no
                    easy solution

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                    • lucky7t
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1306

                      • Oklahoma

                      • 2015 SANTE

                      We get it FEVB


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                      Current Correct Craft Boat
                      [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

                      Correct Craft Boats Owned
                      [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                      [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                      [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                      • scottb7
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2198

                        • Carson City, Nevada

                        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                        "no easy solution" = = no cheap solution. I bet there is a easy solution.

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                        • greggmck
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 795

                          • Bellevue WA

                          • 2023 Paragon G23

                          There is an easy solution. But it's not cheap. The primary cause for these shaft failures is from the asymmetric prop loading causing the shaft to fail at the keyway. The keyway is machined (cut) into the shaft weaking it at the load point of the prop hub. The solution would be to switch to a splined shaft and prop. If Nautique increase the ballast for the G23 in 2020 they will almost certainly have to change to a 1 1/2 shaft. It would make most sense to also switch to a splined shaft / prop combination at that time.

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                          • Wake.BC
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 423

                            • BC, Canada


                            That shouldn’t need to be the solution Greg... look at centurion, Tige, Malibu, you name it.... nobody else is having this problem.

                            I have 5k in ballast with a 1 1/8 shaft still intact, the logic isn’t there.....


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                            • swc5150
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 2240

                              • Eau Claire, WI

                              • MasterCraft Prostar

                              No way to quantify, but this has to be resulting in lost sales. If this issue was happening Prostars, I would've purchased a 200 without blinking.
                              '08 196LE (previous)
                              '07 196LE (previous)
                              2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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                              • greggmck
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 795

                                • Bellevue WA

                                • 2023 Paragon G23

                                If you look at ALL the factors affecting prop shaft loading you will see that there are only TWO boats with 17" or larger props AND a 2:1 transmission, with a significant frequency of surfing. The 2018 ProStar with an 18" prop and 2:1 transmission and the G23 with the 17. The ProStar uses a splined shaft. The G23 a keyway. And after speaking to engineers working on this very problem this is what they are thinking.

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