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  • swankster
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1052

    • DFW, TX

    • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

    Why I dislike the Army Corp of Eng

    36' of water and thump. George of the Jungle what out for that tree. What else could it be??? Not a scratch on the hull!!!!

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    2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
    2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
    pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis
  • Laketexoma
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Dec 2004
    • 463

    • Lake Texoma (Texas side)

    • 2023 G23

    #2
    Ouch. What lake??
    2016 G23 H6
    2014 G23 550
    2013 G23 450 (Great boat)
    2008 230 Team-ZR6- ACME 1235 ( back in a Nautique again)
    2005 Malibu LSV 23 wakesetter (Real Dumb Mistake)
    2000 SAN ( Loved that boat)
    1998 Air Nautique ( our first boat)

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    • JamesHawk101
      • Dec 2012
      • 224

      • Indian Rocks Beach

      • 2015 G23 Coastal

      #3
      Sorry I am not familiar with the army corps thing but what exactly did you hit? A sunken tree?
      2015 G23 Coastal Edition 450 NSS
      2013 G23 Coastal Edition 450 NSS

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      • swankster
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 1052

        • DFW, TX

        • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

        #4
        Lake Lewisville in TX. I normally run Lake Grapevine but the water is so low all the ramps close to me are closed, so I went to Lewisville.

        I'm not sure what it was but think it was a sunken tree. If so, I had to only catch the edge on the NSS. I can't figure out why no hull damage, not even a scratch. How could something bend that metal but do no other damage? The Corp leaves trees in the lake in certain areas for the wildlife. My 230 nav system had the tree areas identified but for some reason the G23 does not. Probably because I had an upgraded chip in the 230. I had 7 teenagers and was doing a lot of instruction. The wind was up and I think I got into the edge of one of the tree lines that they left. Usually they are in shallower water not 36' deep. In the 2014, I'm going to upgrade the nav chip. Until then I'm going to buy a detailed map.

        Hopefully this repair will not be over the deductible.
        2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
        2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
        pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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        • crobi2
          • Dec 2010
          • 337

          • Texas

          • 2000 Super Air Nautique

          #5
          Good 'ole Stumpville.

          I'm sorry that happened to you, I feel your pain.
          Rob
          2000 SAN

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          • swankster
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 1052

            • DFW, TX

            • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

            #6
            The question I have is, "With not even a scratch on the hull and with the metal bent that much could the thump been a failure of the NSS extraction process or was I just lucky enough to just catch the edge of a tree with the NSS"? If the later, that is some soft aluminum and is that why it is designed that way? I'm thinking I hit something that knocked it slightly out of line and extraction process cause the rest. Most of the bend is just above the actuator cylinder. Any other ideas?
            2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
            2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
            pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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            • crobi2
              • Dec 2010
              • 337

              • Texas

              • 2000 Super Air Nautique

              #7
              I guess it makes sense that they designed something that is hanging off the side of the boat like a lever to be soft.

              I still remember horror stories of people with the Malibu Wedge tearing the transom off the boat and sinking.

              You probably just bumped a sunken log and that was all it took. Hopefully you can just replace the plate.
              Rob
              2000 SAN

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              • lucky7t
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1306

                • Oklahoma

                • 2015 SANTE

                #8
                Ok I know it sounds crazy but we hit a very large gar about 4 years ago while wakeboarding in a quiet cove. It was loud and sounded like a concrete wall. It damaged the prop and scratched the hull badly. After the hit I slowed and turned the boat around picked up my boarder and searched and noticed a 3-4 foot dead gar with teeth that looked like Godzilla cut almost in half.

                Not saying that's what happened to you but it cost me alot of moolah
                Current Correct Craft Boat
                [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

                Correct Craft Boats Owned
                [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                • GCSuper
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 292

                  • North Texas

                  • 2011 Super Air 210 2015 Super Air 210 on order

                  #9
                  How was this the COE's fault? There are very few, if any lakes cleared before filling. It's up to the user to learn the channels and the lakebed itself. Not trying to be mean, just don't like to blame the wrong entity.

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                  • AirTool
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 4049

                    • Katy, Texas


                    #10
                    Originally posted by lucky7t View Post
                    Ok I know it sounds crazy but we hit a very large gar about 4 years ago while wakeboarding in a quiet cove. It was loud and sounded like a concrete wall. It damaged the prop and scratched the hull badly. After the hit I slowed and turned the boat around picked up my boarder and searched and noticed a 3-4 foot dead gar with teeth that looked like Godzilla cut almost in half.

                    Not saying that's what happened to you but it cost me alot of moolah
                    wow !! ....what are the odds?

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                    • swankster
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1052

                      • DFW, TX

                      • 2013 G23 450 2025 G23 Centennial Edition

                      #11
                      Originally posted by GCSuper View Post
                      How was this the COE's fault? There are very few, if any lakes cleared before filling. It's up to the user to learn the channels and the lakebed itself. Not trying to be mean, just don't like to blame the wrong entity.
                      True, but where are buoy markers and if you can help me find a detailed map online of the sunken forests, please send me the link. I have not found it yet. Only ones that show stumps, but 36' tall stumps??? I have been to other ACE lakes and they had them. So I agree they are not all bad, just some.
                      Last edited by swankster; 09-16-2013, 06:57 PM.
                      2013 G23 450 with NSS (175hrs) and still have the original prop
                      2010 SANTE 230 343 (280hrs)
                      pre 2010 - various open bow boats and jet skis

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                      • AllianceBJJ
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 347

                        • Cedar Hill, Texas - Joe Pool Lake (Lynn Creek Marina)

                        • 2013 G23 2012 SANTE 230 2011 SANTE 230 2010 SANTE 210 2006 SANTE 210

                        #12
                        Also wish they would also stop releasign water out of the lake....

                        Luckily the side of the lake over by Pier 121 is not a stump field....And I typically have it all to myself on weekend mornings for a few hours....
                        Current Nautique: 2013 G23
                        Previous Nautiques: 2012 SANTE 230, 2011 SANTE 230, 2010 SANTE 210, 2006 SANTE 210

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                        • Skicat
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5

                          • Frisco, Texas


                          #13
                          Where on the lake did you hit the stump? I keep my 211 at Hidden Cove Marina. Last weekend I had to put in at 121 and drive it over to my marina. I was pretty nervous but made it across fine. I did a google search and found a map of the lake that shows approximate locations of stumps. My google search was "lake lewisville map of stumps". The first link is to a pdf you can download. It might be a little helpful.

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                          • pokesgrad02
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 170

                            • Lenexa

                            • 2018 SAN 230

                            #14
                            Much to the dismay of boaters corp lakes are not intended for the enjoyment of citizens. They were built to sustain shipping largely on the Mississippi River. If they are releasing water it is most likely because it is needed down stream. Growing up on corp lakes I use a simple rule. If in shallow water (<10') and I don't know what's under me, drive slow. If I hit something it's my fault. The corp doesn't have the resources to monitor where junk is in the lake. I am sure they would great-fully accept monetary donations to aide in this endeavor though

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                            • CradGen2
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Aug 2020
                              • 1343

                              • Horseheads NY

                              • 1999 Ski 2000 Sport 2004 SV21 2007 216 1992 Malibu flightcraft 2008 210 2006 ski 2012 - 210 2016 BU 23lsv 1998 Sport 1997 Super Sport

                              #15
                              Sorry to see that. Be glad you didn't have the BU wedge. there would have been Hull damage.

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