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  • mikeporter2000
    • Feb 2009
    • 28



    From the pics I've see it definitely looks like folded down tower is higher than the windshield. Measurements to windshield would be interesting.

    I wonder if it's a simple as getting a custom trailer made that is wider than 102" so the boat can sit inside the wheel wells and 5" lower than normal. Sure, the trailer would not be highway legal, but who is really going to check??

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    • FunkyBunch
      • Apr 2012
      • 40

      • United States

      • 2016 G21

      Just to clarify the tower does fold higher than the windshield. I really just meant the windshield is still to high for a normal 8ft garage regardless of tower folding. Again I think I posted this earlier that Buxton measured the G23 on a ramlin and a boatmate with 18's or something like that on it. There is a big difference in the 2 measurements something like another 4-5 inches off on the ramlin. At the end of the day I was still going to have to put in a 9ft garage which can be done since I was building. That was still close on the measurements with the boatmate trailer.

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      • mikeporter2000
        • Feb 2009
        • 28



        FunkyBunch. That's interesting and begs the question, are the specs posted above at 100" height with tower folded on trailer with a Ramlin Trailer or a BoatMate Trailer? And, if it's BoatMate, would a Ramlin and a G21 get closer? And what about 16" rims instead of 18"?

        I know, I'm beating a dead horse, but i built a house less than 2 years ago and I'm not building another for a 9' garage.

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        • NautiqueJeff
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          • Mar 2002
          • 16462
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          Originally posted by mikeporter2000 View Post
          That's interesting and begs the question, are the specs posted above at 100" height with tower folded on trailer with a Ramlin Trailer or a BoatMate Trailer? And, if it's BoatMate, would a Ramlin and a G21 get closer?
          Take a close look at the doc I posted. It says that it is on a Ram-Lin trailer.
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          • FunkyBunch
            • Apr 2012
            • 40

            • United States

            • 2016 G21

            I dropped my boat off on sat and my service guy was doing some glass work on a G23.
            He is going to get me a measurement to the top of the windshield today at some point. That particular boat is on the boat mate trailer.
            I also asked for a picture to show the difference in height compared to my boat. My tower folds down and the highest point is 7'6". That boat fits under the 8ft door but only has about an inch at my lake house. The 8ft door there is the opening but the door in the up position sags down a bit when its on the rollers and I lose a few inches.

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            • FunkyBunch
              • Apr 2012
              • 40

              • United States

              • 2016 G21

              This is a G23 on a boat mate trailer. Measurement from ground to top of the windshield is 7'11" to the tallest point on the side of glass. He said there might be another 1" of rise from there to the center of the boat. The pic I think is funny it shows how big these boats are. The 23 is just 1' larger than the supra. Sorry for the bad glare.

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              • mikeporter2000
                • Feb 2009
                • 28



                Thanks for the measurements! So say the Boatmate is 8' to the op of the windshield. Would it be say 7'10" or less with a Ramlin? This gives me hope that a new/different tower would fit in my garage!

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                • FunkyBunch
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 40

                  • United States

                  • 2016 G21

                  Originally posted by mikeporter2000 View Post
                  Thanks for the measurements! So say the Boatmate is 8' to the op of the windshield. Would it be say 7'10" or less with a Ramlin? This gives me hope that a new/different tower would fit in my garage!
                  I would say you can hold out hope. I would first measure my 8' door to make sure you going to get a full 8' out of it. Your going to use every inch.

                  Back in the day Dorsey used to make a trailer that allowed the boat to sit lower but they are out of business now.

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                  • acs220
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 229

                    • Yulee, FL (JAX)

                    • 2012 SANTE 210 2008 SANTE 210

                    Originally posted by FunkyBunch View Post
                    I would say you can hold out hope. I would first measure my 8' door to make sure you going to get a full 8' out of it. Your going to use every inch.

                    Back in the day Dorsey used to make a trailer that allowed the boat to sit lower but they are out of business now.
                    I think the problem with all of these new boats is that they are so wide the bunks have to hold the boat above the wheel wells. Otherwise you can't get a trailer that's legal for the road. My 2012 210 sits higher on the trailer than my buddy's 2006 220, just because the hull redesigns have made them wider.

                    I have KB's version of an 8ft door (i might get 7' 10" if I'm lucky) and my previous boat, 2008 210, did not fit with the titan tower on a ram-lin galvanized trailer. I have not tried the new one, but I probably won't anyway.

                    Maybe one of these mad scientist's, I mean engineer's, can come up with a Transformer's trailer that widens and lowers the boat when you want to get it in the garage, but travels on the road within the legal limit. Haha!!
                    Last edited by acs220; 11-26-2013, 06:29 PM. Reason: More thoughts!
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                    • ffmedic74
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 835

                      • Lexington, KY


                      Acs220 hit the nail on the head. Width of the boat is key.

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                      • Nordicron
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 557

                        • Madison, WI


                        Originally posted by ffmedic74 View Post
                        Acs220 hit the nail on the head. Width of the boat is key.

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                        That's understandable about the trailer. Nautique should have taken this into consideration when they spec'd the tower and designed it so it folded below 8'. Obviously they didn't care about a sub 8' tower folded design or it was an engineering/planning screwup.

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                        • SkiTower
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2172

                          • Clayton, NC


                          Originally posted by Nordicron View Post
                          That's understandable about the trailer. Nautique should have taken this into consideration when they spec'd the tower and designed it so it folded below 8'. Obviously they didn't care about a sub 8' tower folded design or it was an engineering/planning screwup.
                          No disrespect, but this is a little harsh. I am a design engineer in another industry and deal with these types of compromises every day. EVERY detail of this boat us a trade-off with every other detail, and unfortunately garage height was obviously lower on the priority list. But it doesn't mean they did't care, and I promise you they didn't get to the end and measure the height and say, aw, we missed the height requirement. It was a trade off, pure and simple. And if they lose enough sales because of it, garage height will move higher on the priority list and another detail will suffer. This may be one reason they are keeping the 210 and 230 around, to satisfy those with hard and fast garage restrictions.

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                          • ffmedic74
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 835

                            • Lexington, KY


                            Can't be that big of a deal as they are still selling many G series boats

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                            • Miljack
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 1616

                              • Charlotte, NC

                              • '08 230 TE ZR6

                              Originally posted by FunkyBunch View Post
                              This is a G23 on a boat mate trailer. Measurement from ground to top of the windshield is 7'11" to the tallest point on the side of glass. He said there might be another 1" of rise from there to the center of the boat. The pic I think is funny it shows how big these boats are. The 23 is just 1' larger than the supra. Sorry for the bad glare.

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                              Thanks for measuring, but is the windshield or the tower "hip" the highest point of the boat when trying to fit it under the garage door?

                              Also agree with the POV that the lowered tower height was not a design priority. They started with the wake and went forward from there...
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                              • Nordicron
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 557

                                • Madison, WI


                                I'm not being harsh at all. It's an oversite by Nautique plain and simple. Their competition all fits under an 8ft garage door... Granted a G in my opinion excels over all others in almost every other comparison!

                                It's the tower hip and accessories that are the highest point on the boat I looked at. I don't remember exact measurements though but windshield was under 8 ft. Other thing with windshield is you could easily lower that depending on tongue height but not so with the tower hip with its pivot point right over the wheels.

                                I'm almost positive a fct 3 or 5 tower would be below windshield height on a G.

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