The G21 is Here!

[FunkyBunch]

Thanks for measuring, but is the windshield or the tower "hip" the highest point of the boat when trying to fit it under the garage door?

Also agree with the POV that the lowered tower height was not a design priority. They started with the wake and went forward from there...

This is a measurement to the windshield not the tower hip the tower hip adds another 3-5 inches. This was a response to the guys about the having a different tower and that allowing it to fit an 8' door. Just an FYI in the pictures those are 14ft doors. And the tower in the up right position just barely gets under it.


IMO its not worth the effort to try to squeeze this into and 8' door but that is just my thought. In my area it ended up not being worth the cost of a 9' door 12' by 30' deep garage to house a boat. It was going to cost something around $30,000. That bought a lot of other things in the house or pays for a lot of storage. I will continue to pay for storage and then I don't have to worry about the height. The added free board on the water is way better for my situation than worrying about storage. I need the size for some of the lakes I am on.

[mikeporter2000]

I think the problem with all of these new boats is that they are so wide the bunks have to hold the boat above the wheel wells. Otherwise you can't get a trailer that's legal for the road. My 2012 210 sits higher on the trailer than my buddy's 2006 220, just because the hull redesigns have made them wider.

I have KB's version of an 8ft door (i might get 7' 10" if I'm lucky) and my previous boat, 2008 210, did not fit with the titan tower on a ram-lin galvanized trailer. I have not tried the new one, but I probably won't anyway.

Maybe one of these mad scientist's, I mean engineer's, can come up with a Transformer's trailer that widens and lowers the boat when you want to get it in the garage, but travels on the road within the legal limit. Haha!!

I've had a 102" beam since 2000 on multiple boats and they've been able to sit between the wheel wells because there is taper from the gunnel to the running surface. However, the combination of the G23/21 having very little taper, and needing to have higher freeboard to fit the ballast under the floor creates this problem.

If Nautique made a tower that fit below the windshield I'm sure a trailer manufacturer could figure out how to lose 1" from the 8' height on the wind shield...or at least you could get an articulating trailer hitch and lower the hitch a couple inches when you were moving the boat into the garage.

I feel like this issues is solvable. In my opinion, anyone who lives in the Northwest is going to want to store their G in their garage and most of us have 8' garages. I like the fact that we are at least making some noise on PN.com. Daddy wants a G23 for Christmas!

[toyota40runner]

My Ski Nautique 200 fits great in my garage


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[SkiTower]

I'm really surprised there's that many situations looking at a G with an 8' door. The bigger problem with most non-custom houses is most garages are in the 20' range, so door size is irrelevant.


2007 SV211 SE

[Nordicron]

I'm really surprised there's that many situations looking at a G with an 8' door. The bigger problem with most non-custom houses is most garages are in the 20' range, so door size is irrelevant.


2007 SV211 SE

No idea why you would think this? If this were the case no wake boat period would fit in a garage because almost everyone of them is atleast 21'. The issue is every boat in the 20-23' range from every one of nautiques competitors all go under a 8' door including the 2013 x-star.

[SkiTower]

you can break the population into three buckets: those with no problems storing (off site, boat lift, detached garage with plenty of door clearance, etc), those with 20' garages, and those with long enough garages but not big enough doors. It's just surprising that there are that many of the third type out there. My particular garage has a 7' door and if my builder didn't know I had a big truck (read "custom"), would have had a door too narrow to fit the boat through. My boat BARELY squeaks through the door with the jack all the way down and the highest point still hits the door going through. I see this as representative of a typical garage. So all I'm saying is I'm surprised there are that many garages deep enough for a 23' boat that have a non-standard 8' door. I agree there are some, I just see where CC would put this requirement lower on the list...

But this is still a trade-off. They started with the wake and sacrificed the door clearance. This is a point competition can sell against...we'll see how effectively.

[aZ`]

If they dropped the free board to a point where you could fit it into a standard 8ft garage then it would be a 210...

The whole reason this thing can have a "G" spec wake is because of it's size, you cant have a 5000lb boat that takes on nearly 3000lb factory ballast (plus 2000lb of people) and expect shallow free board.

If you want to fit your boat into a little garage, buy a 210. If wake is your only priority then buy a G and deal with the consequences of that.

The argument that every other manufacturer has a wakeboat that fits into a small garage opening is invalid, Nautique do as well, it's the 210 and the 230, these are comparable in wake size and boat size. In addition Nautique decided to make an even bigger series of boats in the G's for those who want uncompromised wake size. If it were compromised (to allow a shorter height) then it wouldn't have the wake that it does.

[mikeporter2000]

If they dropped the free board to a point where you could fit it into a standard 8ft garage then it would be a 210...

The whole reason this thing can have a "G" spec wake is because of it's size, you cant have a 5000lb boat that takes on nearly 3000lb factory ballast (plus 2000lb of people) and expect shallow free board.

If you want to fit your boat into a little garage, buy a 210. If wake is your only priority then buy a G and deal with the consequences of that.

The argument that every other manufacturer has a wakeboat that fits into a small garage opening is invalid, Nautique do as well, it's the 210 and the 230, these are comparable in wake size and boat size. In addition Nautique decided to make an even bigger series of boats in the G's for those who want uncompromised wake size. If it were compromised (to allow a shorter height) then it wouldn't have the wake that it does.

...or...design the tower to fit under the windshield in the future then all good...just sayn'...

[xrichard]

Interesting there are so many folks dismissing the 8' clearance issue for various reasons. Equally odd is the notion if you don't like it, then buy a smaller boat. If CC can solve this issue without impacting performance or utility, then there is no downside to solving it. It reminds me of the dumb storage solutions in Nautiques in the 90s and early 2000s. Lots of excuses when solutions had no downside. Nautique got serious about good storage and solved those issues.

It could be getting a G under 8' is impossible...but so far that's not clear.

FWIW, 8' clearance on a 21' boat is the absolute constraint for many folks. It's not surprising or unusual. Many of us have put 21' boats in 20' garages for years...you just angle it. Additionally, tract home garages are getting bigger (including deeper). In my area, it is common to see tract homes with one bay double-depth. A lot of tract homes are now standard with 22'+ deep garages given there are plenty of vehicles that measure 19-20' (mine, for example, is a 9 year old tract home with a 22.5' deep garage and 8' door). And, of course, we've seen the typical garage door height move from 7' to 8'.

Bottom line: it's worthwhile for CC to look at this issue to determine if it can be solved. I am not confident that CC gave it tremendous thought when designing the G21.

[Yiger]

I can't believe Nautique finally delivered a product all of it's customers seemed anxious for and rather than rushing out to buy it, those customers are so hung up on the height of the boat on a trailer! Either Nautique absolutely blew it with their market research or the customers have lost focus of the point of the product (which I'm pretty sure is water sports- not parking). Either way there is a disconnect here that will be costly to Nautique. This is becoming a classic marketing case study.

For what it's worth, it wouldn't fit in my garage either but it would look great on my lift!

[mikeporter2000]

XRichard, I totally agree.

Yiger, to be transparent I believe Nautique has hit a total home run with the G23 and G21. If I was to design a 23 foot boat it would be nearly identical to the G23.

However with that said, if I'm going to spend $120k on a wakeboard boat, I want it sitting in a nice 24' deep heated garage that just happens to have an 8' door. I have a place to put it on the lake in the summer, but I want to have it nice and cozi during the winters. I don't think I'm alone.

I don't see this as complaining, just raising awareness for future tower design considerations.

[xrichard]

I can't believe Nautique finally delivered a product all of it's customers seemed anxious for and rather than rushing out to buy it, those customers are so hung up on the height of the boat on a trailer! Either Nautique absolutely blew it with their market research or the customers have lost focus of the point of the product (which I'm pretty sure is water sports- not parking). Either way there is a disconnect here that will be costly to Nautique. This is becoming a classic marketing case study.

For what it's worth, it wouldn't fit in my garage either but it would look great on my lift!

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Yiger, the fact that it would look great on your lift is fantastic. And I think that train of thought is similar to how Nautique views it. They don't take into account that there are very few on-the-water homes in the West...most people aren't storing on a lift, they're storing in a garage or paying $250-300/month for stacked storage where you have to schedule retrieval/drop-off and leave the boat in a parking lot overnight if you drop it after closing time.

As Mikeporter2000 said, this isn't about complaining. It's about raising awareness with Nautique and hoping they'll address this legitimate issue.

[Yiger]

I'm not implying that anyone is complaining. I'm just saying that if the 8' clearance is so important to customers, Nautique should have recognized that in their market research before designing the G21. It's unfortunate that they didn't.

[A330Captain]

I have the F2 hitch on my Boatmate and was considering trying what's in this video. Wonder how much it will lower the height.

Maybe worth doing some research on

See video at about 2:45
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack...413040134.html

[wakewatcher]

Assuming the top of the windshield is less than 8 feet on the trailer then there's an easy answer. I.e., Who needs a stinkin' tower anyway? If you merit a G21 level (surf) boat you can just do a reverse ollie grab off the platform for your start. :-)