What is considered a high time boat?

[Laketexoma]

I think mine sold for 124ish with 48 hrs on it and it had every option except arm rest in bow and a 450

[nyryan2001]

+1

For a little bit more you can find a used G with less than 100 hours...

The red 2013 550hp G23 loaded PN demo boat is for sale on onlyinboards for $110k with 100hrs !!!!!

[Miljack]

That almost 600 hour boat will be hard to sell when it's close to a 1,000 hrs, especially one in that price range. If you plan on keeping it for 10+ years, and will only average <50hrs a year, you might be ok.
I'll second the PN G for a great deal!

[josemolino]

I agree that a well maintenance record is the most important rule. However I use the following rule of thumb to compare to cars:
If I drive at and average of 24mph (at maximum), multiplied by i.e. 500 hours that means 12.500 miles. From a purely technical point of view, that´s negligible if you also consider that boats usually run at lower rpm´s than cars.
A completely different thing is if you are looking at the resale value

[seachicken27]

I'll third the PN boat for a great deal! haha. But I agree with what others have said. The only reason not to buy that boat is purely from a resale point of view. The engines are great, but in 5 years there will be plenty of G's on the market with 200 or so hours for probably 75kish. So a 1000 hour G will probably be worth a bit less (especially a 2013 450 now that the drivetrains have changed for the better in 2014). If you are going to keep it forever, no big deal. The Planet Nautique boat I have has been babied by Jeff and myself and has some sweet PN seadek on it!

[swc5150]

+4 on the PN boat. Unless you can get that rep boat for a HUGE savings, I'd pass. Will it run great? Absolutely, but trying to sell a 1,000+ hour boat is like trying to sell a 150k mile car, in terms of buyer perception. Talk to some promo guys who rack up serious hours in a short time. Many end up taking a huge loss. Now if you plan on keeping it forever, and can get a killer deal on it, go for it. It would have to be one heck of deal in comparison to the PN boat though, as that thing is decked out!

[swc5150]

Don't forget the PN boat is also resale red in color! Green may not be considered very attractive in 5 years. I know from experience...I had to practically give away our teal '92 Prostar in 1995, as it was WAY out of style in a 3 short years.

[nyryan2001]

I agree that a well maintenance record is the most important rule. However I use the following rule of thumb to compare to cars:
If I drive at and average of 24mph (at maximum), multiplied by i.e. 500 hours that means 12.500 miles. From a purely technical point of view, that´s negligible if you also consider that boats usually run at lower rpm´s than cars.

^^^ Pretty much dont agree with anything in this post. Comparing V8 truck mileage to wakeboat hours is apples and oranges, they are not a direct comparison.

Most truck V8s RARELY exceed 2500RPMs unless they are towing heavy or go up a steep hill. crusing at 70 mph most are at a liesurely 1900-2000rpms. So the average for most trucks is around 1500rpm range over their lifespan for mixed driving. I can tell you its extremely rare my 5.7L Tundra engine will downshift and hit RPMs higher than 3500.... even towing near 9000lbs G23 and gettin up to speed to merge onto an interstate. and even then its only for a few seconds, not extended periods.

Wakeboats underload are almost ALWAYS in the 3000-4000rpm range for extended periods whether wakesurfing or at 23mph with ballast. They almost ALWAYS spike into 4000rpm+ range when the driver hammer's down to pull up a rider.

Anything over 3500rpms on a truck V8 is extreme...its the norm on a wakeboat. IMO if you double or triple your calculation.... you'd be close to capturing the accurate wear and tear on a wakeboat V8 engine as it relates to hours and use.

If you figure 4000 hrs is the average max lifespan of a wakeboat V8....or 350,000miles for a V8 truck..... comparatively and in proportion.....500hrs would be approx 45,000miles or approx 1/8th of that engine's lifespan if no defects and maintained properly.

[Zach@n3]

^^. What Ryan said. Fuel Injected V8s greatly increase the lifespan of an engine over the older carbureted boats. I have always related engine hours on a boat to miles on a vehicle to 1000 hours = 100,000k miles. Most cars and boats that are maintained like an average person does are getting tired around the 350,000 mile or 3500 hour mark if they are kept that long. Now there are the shining examples of maintenance standards to the highest level that will out last that. I don't think it will be strange at all in our future to see these boats making it to 3500-4000 easily. I have plenty of customers with retired camp tow boats running deep into the 3000+ mark currently. The 6.0 Chevy is an extremely proven and robust engine design and should last a lifetime in most applications.

[s_kelley2000]

Based on the subject line....not the thread I was expecting.

Haha! Based on your interpretation I'd say one registered in CO or WA.....

[shag]

Haha! Based on your interpretation I'd say one registered in CO or WA.....

This is funny.... :=)

As far as the 107k, thats too much..... Like others said, you should be able to find a lower hour G somewhere for about that.... My .02

[AirTool]

Haha! Based on your interpretation I'd say one registered in CO or WA.....

Yes...and purchased on April 20.

On Topic: Boats and autos that die a natural life are (IMO) generally destroyed by the sun. Hours and miles have little to do with it.

Having said that, the word in the street is that miles and hours are bad. So, yes...it reduces the value.
But, rarely does it reduce the function.

[Swim]

I bought a 99' with just over 1000 hours.... I put 600 on it last year (yes, that's 600, probably would've done more but the snow came early... my other addiction.) I'm probably going to rebuild the GT-40 this year just because I'm trying to squeeze a bit more power from her. I'm also contemplating the Excal swap.
That being said... my friend has a 99' that he runs in salt 5-6 days a week with just over 4k on it.. still runs like a champ. He treats that poor boat like crap, but it still keeps going.
590 hours in a year? Not bad.

[Nordicron]

Yeah that's way to many hours for that price! There are many other Gs out there to be had with lower hours and the same money. I believe a good rule of thumb is every hr on a wake boat of this price structure is about $50/hr depreciation right off the top. Meaning if I've got identical g's and one had 100 and this one 600 I'd expect almost $25k price reduction between the 2. And lastly my dealer tells me if you get over 1500hrs on these wakeboard motors you should consider yourself lucky! These motors nowadays are worked 10times harder than they used to be. There's not a boat on the planet that makes it's motor work harder than a loaded G!


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[brudererscr]

Thanks for all the input. I couldn't bring myself to purchase the boat with 590 hours on it. I have been boating for most of my life, but this will be the first inboard I purchase. I went ahead and purchased a new 2014. The new gear ratio swayed my decision. Not to mention the color. Now I can't wait to get it on the water. Too bad there is still snow on the Ground. Props to the guys at N3 Boatworks. I probably had them quote just about every boat they had. Good group of guys and would recommend to anyone.