Surf tab system being developed for classic SAN SSN 95-06

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  • hyparks
    • Feb 2011
    • 302

    • Brownhills, United Kingdom

    • 2001 Super Air 210

    #31
    I'm currently working on my own system, posted my progress so far in the diy section. I currently have screw in handles but have just ordered some index plungers to make it easier. Dont really want to be screwing and unscrewing under water.

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    Current
    2001 SAN 210, GT40

    Previous
    1994 Mastercraft Pro Star 190
    1989 14ft Fletcher Arrowflyte Gto

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    • orzech
      • Jul 2003
      • 166

      • Honeoye, NY

      • 88 ski nautique 97 super sport nautique

      #32
      Finished up the prototype and finally got to do a couple test runs. Seems like the sweet spot for the weight is 60-65% to the surf side and 35-40% on the opposite side. They lengthen the wave dramatically and gives a very clean wave on both sides. I want to do a few more stress tests and talk to my CNC machinist before I can get a final price on them. Pics to come shortly. Thanks.

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      • 99SAN
        • Oct 2010
        • 172

        • Roll Tide


        #33
        You are the man! Post some pics

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        • orzech
          • Jul 2003
          • 166

          • Honeoye, NY

          • 88 ski nautique 97 super sport nautique

          #34
          I was only able to get 2 quick pics since it started to rain a lot harder and get windy out there. 40* air temps and 35-40* water is no fun. Pics were taken at identical speeds and weights, one with tab deployed and one without. Exact speed is unknown since my perfect pass is off by a couple MPH, but both are within .1 mph of each other. But anyways here they are.

          Ballast set up (estimates):
          750 surf side
          400 opposite
          75 in lead in the ski locker
          150 in the bow
          2 people (325 lbs total)
          1/8th tank of gas

          Was able to get an identical wave for the opposite side with out much effort. Still a lot more fine tuning to do to get the best wave for both sides but the tabs help immensely. I am hoping to get the boat out Monday for some fully weighted tests and get a few more people in the boat to see what she is really capable of now.

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          • Brichter14
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jun 2013
            • 531

            • Central Illinois

            • 97 Nautique Super Sport 2010 Wakesetter 23 LSV 2020 Nautique G23

            #35
            That looks great! So you used moombas design? I cant wait to see it. You planning on reproducing it?

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            • orzech
              • Jul 2003
              • 166

              • Honeoye, NY

              • 88 ski nautique 97 super sport nautique

              #36
              Thanks, they are NSS style with manual Indexing pins. No tools required to switch sides. This will be up for sale shortly.

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              • Brichter14
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Jun 2013
                • 531

                • Central Illinois

                • 97 Nautique Super Sport 2010 Wakesetter 23 LSV 2020 Nautique G23

                #37
                Any idea on price yet? Probably depends on quantity that people want right

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                • pe4me
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 165

                  • Dhahran, KSA/ Green Bay, Wi

                  • 1997 SSN 2006 210 TE www.whitelake.com 1994 Prostar 205 (restored) 198

                  #38
                  Pics and prices-
                  Awesome
                  [COLOR=#333333]2006 210 TE[/COLOR]
                  [COLOR=#333333]www.whitelake.com[/COLOR]
                  [COLOR=#333333]1994 Prostar 205 (restored)[/COLOR]
                  [COLOR=#333333]1986 Dixie Skier OB[/COLOR]

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                  • Paxdad
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 775

                    • Cumming, GA

                    • 2008 210 SANTE

                    #39
                    All right enough of the photo promises or they don't exist....
                    2008 210 SANTE

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                    • orzech
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 166

                      • Honeoye, NY

                      • 88 ski nautique 97 super sport nautique

                      #40
                      The boat is in the hoist right now... This is why I am only getting wave shots. My one concern with these is that it is not true 50-50 weight distribution for the rear. The side opposite of your prop rotation will need closer to 70-30 to be crystal clean. Opinions are welcome here, do you guys absolutely want 50-50 tab or more so something to shape and lengthen the wave? I can say for sure with as much weight as I could and people I in the boat I could never get the port side wave to clean up.

                      Ballast is a the same as before with 1/2 tank of gas and 2 people(275 lbs total). Forecast looks like 55 and rain for the next week so I cant comment on the ride of the wave

                      Price is really going to be based on my CNC costs and TIG welding costs. Right now I am thinking around the $400 mark for the pair.

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                      • pe4me
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 165

                        • Dhahran, KSA/ Green Bay, Wi

                        • 1997 SSN 2006 210 TE www.whitelake.com 1994 Prostar 205 (restored) 198

                        #41
                        Mine opinion: 400 is super fair.
                        This is my opinion and man am I ignorant of all the R&D, but personally I would rather pay MORE and wait for the product that you know is perfected. I would think the least amount of weight required and as clean as possible (can it really be perfect with prop rotation?) would be paramount next to size and push.
                        Either way, you are making all our older boats that much more valuable and if/when its time...saleable.
                        Thanks
                        [COLOR=#333333]2006 210 TE[/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#333333]www.whitelake.com[/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#333333]1994 Prostar 205 (restored)[/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#333333]1986 Dixie Skier OB[/COLOR]

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                        • orzech
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 166

                          • Honeoye, NY

                          • 88 ski nautique 97 super sport nautique

                          #42
                          Thanks for the reply. I have a good idea what needs to be changed with the prototype. So i am going to try some adjustments on them and some different designed sliders and i will get back to everyone as soon as possible.

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                          • s_kelley2000
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1575
                            • Fort Meadow Recevoir

                            • Mass

                            • 2012 Super Air Nautique 230 1999 Nautique Super Sport with 502 Python (for Sale)

                            #43
                            Nice work, I'm excited to see more. It'd be great to be able to finish wake boarding and switch to surfing without having to to move a ton of ballast all around. Being able to run level would be great but even just less of a lean would very nice. That is definitely the longest and cleanest I have ever seen the port side wave on these boats so you are certainly on the right track.
                            Shawn

                            2012 Blue Metal Flake SAN 230

                            1999 Black and Tan Python 502 Powered Super Sport (for Sale)

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                            • orzech
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 166

                              • Honeoye, NY

                              • 88 ski nautique 97 super sport nautique

                              #44
                              I think i just need to extend the plates out further from the hull. I cant wait to get the usual crew of 5-6 out there to see how she looks fully loaded.

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                              • Beach-TJ
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 207

                                • Lake Lanier, Ga

                                • 2004 SAN 210 TE

                                #45
                                I'm interested in them. Not having An exact 50/50 weight distribution isn't a big deal to me. As long as i can keep the weight in the rear lockers and not have sacs in the main cabin, and a little less lean, and i would be happy

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